Transcript [00:00] This episode is brought to you by [00:01] Cardiff, America's favorite small [00:02] business lender with over 12 billion [00:04] funded since 2004. Applying under three [00:05] minutes for same day funding up to [00:08] 500,000 at cardiff.co/noles. [00:11] An Omani Muslim pilot tried to take down [00:14] an Emirati airplane flying to Israel [00:16] yesterday. And the terrorist aviator [00:19] would have gotten away with it if it [00:21] weren't for a crazy Indian co-pilot and [00:24] a plane full of Jews with a lot of [00:26] hutzbah. Then a former American Idol [00:28] star and non-denominational pastor is [00:31] convicted of murdering his beautiful [00:33] wife and by all accounts very lovely [00:35] wife and no one seems to understand why [00:39] on earth he would do it. But I think I [00:41] actually have the answer. And the [00:42] craziest story of all, Sunny Host of the [00:45] View has emerged as the voice of reason [00:48] in the case of the Cornell 7. I'm [00:51] Michael Nolles. This is the Michael [00:52] Nolles show. [01:10] Welcome back to the show. You still [01:11] haven't seen Run Hide Fight Infidels, [01:13] huh? You haven't? Well, you got to go to [01:14] dailywware.com/subscribe. [01:16] You should just see it. Period. But if [01:18] you have a flight booked on Fly Dubai [01:21] anytime soon, you need to see Runhide [01:23] Fight Infidels could be a matter of life [01:25] and death. Dailywire.com/subscribe. [01:28] Speaking of death, before we get into [01:29] any of these stories, [01:31] this is pretty crazy. Yesterday on the [01:34] show, we talked about the case of [01:36] Christa Pike. Christa Pike is this woman [01:38] who's been on death row for 30 years. [01:40] She was convicted in the mid '9s at the [01:43] age of 18 or or she was convicted of a [01:46] crime that she committed at the age of [01:48] 18 when she lured another teenage girl [01:51] into the woods and then chopped her up, [01:53] tortured her. Her boyfriend carved a [01:55] pentagram on her chest. Then Christa [01:57] Pike killed the girl, bludgeoned her in [01:59] the head with a rock, took part of her [02:02] skull, brought it back as a souvenir and [02:04] showed it off around campus. As heinous [02:06] a crime as you can imagine. She's been [02:08] on death row for 30 years because the [02:10] American justice system is broken. And [02:12] finally, she was supposed to be executed [02:14] yesterday at 10 a.m. The lawyers were [02:17] trying all these last minute desperate [02:19] pleas. Uh it went all the way up to the [02:21] Supreme Court. The Supreme Court shut it [02:22] down. They go to some other court. They [02:23] they do get a temporary reprieve, but [02:26] then the Supreme Court is like, "Hey, [02:27] knock it off. You got to kill the lady." [02:28] And so they go to kill her. This is the [02:31] first woman to be executed by the state [02:33] of Tennessee in over 200 years. So, they [02:36] use lethal injection, which I find to be [02:38] a very undignified form of the death [02:40] penalty. For me, God forbid, I hope I'm [02:43] never convicted of a capital offense. I [02:45] would prefer a firing squad. That seems [02:47] more dignified. You could even be [02:48] standing up. You got a cigarette or [02:50] better a cigar in your teeth. And that [02:52] would that would get the job done. They [02:54] administer the shots of lethal [02:58] injection. [02:59] Doesn't work. She wakes up apparently. [03:03] She says, "Hey, wait a second. My arm [03:04] kind of hurts. This is really brutal. I [03:06] feel like my veins are about to explode. [03:07] Is this Is this how it's supposed to [03:08] work? It didn't work. So, they give her [03:11] more shots of lethal injection. [03:14] It doesn't work. So, then kind of crazy [03:18] when it comes to the death penalty, they [03:20] send an ambulance over and they take her [03:22] to the hospital to treat her for the [03:25] wounds that she incurred while they were [03:26] trying to kill her. And now it's unclear [03:29] what's going to happen. So, my first [03:32] thought when when you look at the [03:35] incompetence of the state executioner, [03:38] my first thought was, have they [03:40] considered dragging this woman out into [03:41] the woods and cracking her skull with a [03:43] rock? Because I know for sure that that [03:45] works. I know that's a very effective [03:47] method of killing somebody. The the uh [03:50] condemned here knows that that's a very [03:52] effective method of killing somebody. [03:53] Why do we have to play around with all [03:54] these stupid shots and all these stupid [03:56] lawyers and all these stupid judges? Why [03:58] don't we just do it the oldfashioned [03:59] way? That was my first thought. My [04:02] second thought was, is it possible that [04:05] this was a case of sabotage? [04:07] Because we know that there's a lot of [04:09] anti-death penalty activism, mostly from [04:11] the left, a little bit on the right. Uh, [04:13] so is it possible that someone was just [04:15] mixing up the shots over here because [04:17] they they didn't want this to be carried [04:18] out? It's possible. I think this is [04:22] where a lot of people were very eager to [04:24] see the death penalty carried out here. [04:26] There's a misunderstanding of why so [04:28] many people want to see this woman [04:31] killed. [04:32] Some of it has to do with justice. Some [04:34] of it has to do with how heinous the [04:36] crime was. But at a deeper level, it is [04:40] not merely the bloodthirstiness of the [04:43] public. [04:44] I think for a lot of people, the fact [04:46] that the state could not execute this [04:48] woman, the fact that it takes 30 years [04:51] for criminals to receive their [04:52] punishments in the rare cases when they [04:54] actually do receive their punishments, [04:56] the the reason a lot of people are so [04:58] irritated by this is because it is [05:01] further evidence that our justice system [05:03] doesn't work. It is yet another example [05:06] of our institutions failing us, of [05:08] people losing trust in the public [05:10] authority. The law says the woman is [05:13] supposed to be killed. The law says [05:15] generally that criminals are supposed to [05:16] be held responsible for their crimes and [05:18] they're not. We see this in cities all [05:20] around the country. People with a wrap [05:21] sheet a mile long, they're just let out [05:24] on the street and eventually they kill [05:26] somebody in the subway or something and [05:28] they're still probably not held to [05:29] account for their crimes. And so people [05:30] feel that the the public authorities [05:32] have just failed them. And this is the [05:34] latest and a kind of absurd example of [05:37] that. That is what people are about. On [05:40] top of that, a lot of the anti-death [05:42] penalty activism focuses on how in the [05:44] modern age, we don't need the death [05:46] penalty to protect the public from the [05:47] criminals. So, they'll say, well, you [05:51] know, the purpose of the death penalty [05:52] now is no longer required. Or they'll [05:56] say because it takes 30 years for the [05:57] death penalty to be carried out, uh, [05:59] it's it's not really a deterrent to [06:01] crime. They'll say, you know, we have [06:02] all these studies from all these [06:03] universities that show that the death [06:05] penalty doesn't actually deter crime. [06:06] The studies could be dubious. That's not [06:08] the point. They say if there's no [06:10] deterrent effect and there's no effect [06:11] to protect the public, then there's no [06:13] reason to carry out the death penalty. [06:15] But what they're missing is two other [06:17] aspects of the death penalty. One, the [06:20] rehabilitative aspect of the death [06:21] penalty. A lot of the argument, [06:22] especially the Christian argument [06:23] against the death penalty, is that we [06:25] need these people to live so that they [06:26] have a a longer period of time to [06:28] repent. That that would be good for [06:30] their souls. However, Dr. Samuel Johnson [06:33] famously points out that the death [06:35] penalty has a rehabilitative aspect. He [06:38] says, "Depend upon it, sir. When a man [06:39] knows he's to be hanged in a fortnight, [06:41] it concentrates the mind wonderfully." [06:44] In other words, if your if your goal is [06:46] to save their souls and allow them to [06:48] repent, you actually might be [06:50] undermining that by not killing them [06:52] because when they're facing death [06:54] directly, they're it's going to focus [06:55] their mind and they're going to they're [06:57] either going to ignore the God's grace [07:00] or they're going to uh think about the [07:02] final things and repent at the last [07:04] minute. when a when a guy thinks he's [07:06] got 30 years and he might not face the [07:08] death penalty anyway, actually the odds [07:11] that he repents might be lower. So [07:12] that's the the rehabilitative aspect of [07:14] the death penalty. There's there's a [07:15] very good essay by Father George Rutler [07:17] on this in Crisis magazine called [07:18] Hanging Concentrates the Mind. But this [07:21] all misses the point. The chief purpose [07:25] of the entire criminal justice system is [07:27] retribution. [07:29] It is not chiefly deterrence. It is not [07:31] chiefly protecting the public. It is not [07:32] chiefly rehabilitation. [07:34] If it were chiefly any of those things, [07:37] then we could convict and imprison and [07:39] even execute people who have not been [07:40] found guilty of a crime. [07:43] If everybody could use a little [07:44] rehabilitation, anybody with a little [07:46] bit of a problem, they could use a [07:48] little time of rehabilitation, right? [07:50] People who we suspect could commit [07:52] crimes statistically or as a matter of [07:54] prejudice, we we should just lock them [07:56] up. If the chief goal is to protect the [07:57] public, better safe than sorry. [08:00] No, the chief purpose is retribution. [08:05] And in the case of the death penalty, it [08:07] goes back to the book of Genesis. [08:08] Whosoever sheds the blood of man, by man [08:09] shall his blood be shed. For man is made [08:11] in the image and likeness of God. That [08:12] the the blood of the innocent cries out [08:15] from the very ground for justice. Okay. [08:19] All of that said, I have one last [08:22] thought on this botched execution that [08:26] maybe is a little unexpected. I don't [08:28] know. Maybe you're going to call me a [08:29] little bit of a lib here, but I don't [08:31] think I'm a lib. [08:33] There is a providential aspect to this, [08:35] too. And so, I'm I'm slightly joking [08:38] about dragging the condemned out to the [08:40] woods and cracking her skull with a [08:41] rock, cuz that'll definitely work. She [08:43] knows it. [08:46] There is a long tradition of when an [08:50] execution doesn't work for whatever [08:53] reason, [08:55] just kind of letting it go. Not maybe [08:57] not literally letting the criminal off [08:58] the hook entirely. I don't think this [09:00] crazy lady should be allowed to walk [09:01] free, but maybe you just let her live [09:03] the rest of her life in prison. Maybe I [09:05] know you're going to call me a lib. [09:06] You're going to say I'm going squishy. [09:07] But my argument here is that we need to [09:12] enact justice. We need to use our [09:14] reason. We need to act responsibly. We [09:16] need to do all of these things. But it [09:18] is very very important for us to be [09:21] sensitive to the signs of providence. [09:24] I'm actually writing a whole book on [09:25] this right now and this comes from a [09:27] commencement speech that I gave a couple [09:28] years ago to a Maria. We need to be open [09:31] to the science of providence. You know, [09:33] we have this idea in modernity that we [09:35] do everything. That the world is just [09:36] about us. We need to go out and change [09:37] the world. We need to impose our will [09:39] upon the world. It's all about us. No, [09:42] no gods, no kings, only men. But that's [09:45] not the old view. That's not the view of [09:47] Christendom. That's not the view you see [09:49] in the in the Gospels. It's not the view [09:51] of the early Christians that we we're in [09:56] this suspended time of history. We know [09:57] how history begins. We know the turn of [09:59] history, which is the incarnation and [10:00] the crucifixion, the resurrection. We [10:02] know how history ends uh in the end [10:05] times. But but we're in the suspended [10:07] time of history. And so what are we [10:08] supposed to do in this suspended time of [10:10] history? Supposed to use our reason, do [10:12] do act in accord with God's will. And in [10:14] order to act in accord with God's will, [10:15] we have to be listening for God's will. [10:17] I think it's the uh 20th century [10:19] theologian Enri Dubach. It's either [10:21] Dubac or Balthazar who points out that [10:24] uh the one of the distinctive [10:26] characteristics of the son of Christ [10:30] distinguished from the father the first [10:32] person of the blessed trinity is that [10:34] the son is always receiving from the [10:35] father. He's eternally begotten of the [10:37] father. Christ in his sjourn on earth is [10:40] always listening. He's always praying. [10:42] He's always listening for the commands [10:43] of the father. When he says not my will [10:45] be done but thy will be done. This is [10:47] confounding for a lot of Christians [10:48] because we say, "Well, hold on. Christ, [10:49] you are God." So, what is the [10:51] distinction here? It's we can't fit the [10:55] u the entirety of the Trinity into our [10:57] finite little minds. If that were the [10:59] case, God would not be God. But we see [11:01] this that Christ as he says is always [11:03] listening. Those who have ears to hear, [11:04] let them hear. You you scrutinize the [11:08] signs of the weather, but you can't [11:09] discern the signs of the times. [11:12] uh a little openness to providence [11:15] is not the worst thing in the world. And [11:17] in fact, that is one of the essential [11:20] qualities that distinguishes Christian [11:22] civilization. And so, look, I don't [11:24] know. This could have been sabotage. We [11:26] should look into that. That the woman [11:28] certainly deserves death. There's no [11:30] question about it. By the letter of the [11:31] law, she should be killed. The courts [11:33] agree. The governor agrees, possibly. [11:36] However, [11:37] if this really just happened, [11:40] if two rounds of lethal injection [11:45] actually just failed just cuz with no [11:49] natural explanation for that. [11:53] I'm not entirely opposed to letting her [11:55] live the rest of her life in prison. I [11:57] know what I would do as a citizen. I [12:00] know what I would do. I know what I [12:01] would vote for. I know what I would do [12:03] basically as the governor if I were told [12:05] to follow the law. I know what the what [12:07] justice demands. And yet mercy seasons [12:11] justice. And ultimately though we have [12:13] substantial uh command over the world [12:15] and over history. We're not ultimately [12:18] sovereign over history. God is sovereign [12:20] over history. And there is a reason why [12:22] our forebears who were a lot tougher [12:24] about justice than we are. [12:27] If an execution failed, if someone [12:29] survived it, they might defer to a [12:32] higher authority. That that's all I'm [12:34] saying. I know this is probably the only [12:36] conservative show that you're going to [12:37] see or hear today that will suggest [12:39] anything of the kind, but that is not [12:42] that is not a lib take. Actually, that [12:44] might that might be that might be the [12:46] more conservative, more traditional, and [12:48] and more Christian take on all of it. I [12:50] don't I don't know. Let me know what you [12:52] think in the comments. [12:53] I'm not I want justice as much as the [12:57] next guy, [12:59] but when when strange things happen in [13:01] the world, I'm at least sensitive to it. [13:03] Okay. Now, speaking of the things that [13:05] we can all do to take some control over [13:08] our polity and over history, [13:12] I want to tell you about the midterms [13:15] and GOP votes. There's a lot more to [13:17] say. First, though, go to gopvotes.org. [13:20] The midterm elections are here. If the [13:23] DSA Democrats win, they will push a [13:24] radical socialist agenda and drown [13:26] President Trump in endless [13:28] investigations. We've seen their [13:29] playbook before. They tried impeaching [13:31] him. They tried putting him in prison. 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It was on a fly Dubai [14:27] plane, [14:29] a flight from Dubai to Tel A Tel Aviv [14:32] full of people of different [14:33] nationalities, but mostly it was Israeli [14:35] Jews. Uh is it's flying from the [14:38] Emirates over to the state of Israel and [14:40] at one point there's a problem in the [14:42] cockpit. I love that. That's how the [14:45] mainstream media reported on this. They [14:47] say, you know, there was an altercation [14:48] in the cockpit. New York Times, you [14:50] know, there was a little little bit of a [14:51] fight, a little disagreement in the [14:53] cockpit. That's like saying that the [14:55] Millennium Falcon had an earlier than [14:57] scheduled departure because there was a [14:58] little bit of a disagreement between [15:00] Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi. You [15:01] know, there wasn't just a little [15:02] disagreement in the cockpit. One of the [15:04] pilots was a terrorist. He was an Omani [15:07] Muslim and he stabbed his co-pilot who [15:10] was an Indian guy and then he tried to [15:12] take the plane down. [15:14] The minute you heard about this, a plane [15:16] was hijacked and nearly went down in the [15:18] Middle East. You would say, "Well, hold [15:19] on. This is after 9/11. The cockpits are [15:21] locked. How on earth did a terrorist [15:23] bust into the cockpit? Well, one thing [15:25] that we hadn't considered was maybe the [15:27] call could come from inside the house. [15:29] In this case, this is deep infiltration. [15:31] You have this Omani Muslim terrorist [15:33] pilot who stabs the co-pilot and now all [15:37] the passengers who might stop him flight [15:39] 93 style, they're all locked out of the [15:40] cockpit because of the safety measures [15:42] to stop terrorism. So, this is where it [15:44] gets really amazing. [15:46] The Indian co-pilot, his name is Captain [15:49] Smid Makahar. I'm sure I'm [15:51] mispronouncing that. He is stabbed. Very [15:54] severely stabbed. He is collapsing. He's [15:57] on the brink of passing out. And just [15:59] before he does it, this total hero [16:03] gigachad [16:04] indogead [16:07] manages to open the cockpit door. [16:10] Imagine having the plane is going down. [16:13] You are you are dying and you have the [16:16] presence of mind to open the cockpit [16:18] door. He opens the cockpit door and that [16:21] is when the Israelis on the plane take [16:23] over. The Israelis who as a people are [16:26] fairly sensitive to Muslim terrorism. [16:29] They bust in. They grab the terrorist [16:34] pilot. They put him in chokeold. Then [16:37] because it's a plane full of Israeli [16:38] Jews, they have a bunch of like [16:40] different skills. So there's of course [16:41] there's a doctor on board, there's a [16:43] doctor, there's a lawyer, there's an [16:44] accountant. I'm sure they they all bust [16:46] into action. the doctor on board goes [16:48] and starts caring for the the Indian [16:49] co-pilot who was stabbed and potentially [16:52] dying and then I don't know I assume the [16:55] accountant was doing everybody's taxes [16:56] on there. I assume you probably had a [16:58] few like jewelry dealers you I don't [17:00] know you but in any case they spring [17:03] into action and they managed to [17:06] stabilize the plane. Another [17:07] providential aspect of this, you had [17:10] reserve crew members from Fly Dubai who [17:14] happened to be on this plane and they [17:15] were on this plane in case they needed a [17:17] new crew if the flights were delayed. [17:19] You know, I've flown Fly Dubai, frankly, [17:21] when the plane dropped 10,000 ft in 2 [17:23] seconds. I'm surprised the Fly Dubai [17:25] passengers thought anything was wrong. [17:26] Fly Dubai is kind of a dodgy airliner. I [17:28] flew it like 10 11 years ago. It's not [17:30] It's not the best airline in the world. [17:32] And it starts going down. They managed [17:36] to get the terrorists out and then the [17:37] reserve crew come in. They stabilize the [17:39] plane. 178 people on board. They have [17:41] sorry 174 27 of them children. They land [17:45] the plane in Saudi Arabia. Everybody's [17:48] safe. Here is President Trump describing [17:50] the scene. [17:52] >> An Israeli plumber never flew a plane. [17:56] Was rarely in planes. Very rarely flew. [18:00] An Israeli plumber saw what was [18:02] happening and strong. You know when you [18:04] lift pipe all day, you're strong. And he [18:06] saw what was going on. He heard the [18:08] screaming. He was toward the front where [18:12] you had security in the back. You know, [18:13] you had security and you had another [18:15] flight crew, but they didn't have time. [18:18] The plane was going sharply down at an [18:20] unbelievable angle. So sharp that the [18:22] rudder ripped off the back of the plane. [18:24] Plane wasn't designed to go at a speed [18:27] anywhere near that. And so it was well [18:30] beyond its limits. And he ripped with [18:34] his G forces as they were, he ripped [18:36] this guy out of the seat, threw him [18:38] back, the crowd got him, the passengers [18:40] got him. [18:42] Got him. Stabilize it. And then the [18:45] final scene of all of this is that you [18:47] have this plane full of Jews landing in [18:50] Saudi Arabia. You just can't make it up. [18:52] Saudi Arabia, which certainly does not [18:54] accept Israeli passports. I might have [18:57] been a little awkward there at customs. [18:59] Unbelievable happy ending. And so this [19:02] relates to what we were talking about [19:03] earlier which is providence. There are [19:05] two big questions that this kind of an [19:08] event poses for us. Beside we should all [19:10] be happy. We should all thank God. We [19:12] should have this wonderful happy ending. [19:14] Because had this gone down, had this [19:16] really gone down, 174 people killed on [19:19] this flight to Tel Aviv in a Middle East [19:22] that's already at war, this could have [19:24] vastly expanded the war. This would have [19:27] prompted a major response from the state [19:29] of Israel against against Iran, against [19:32] Oman, against who knows. This this you [19:35] can't call the Middle East a powder keg [19:36] cuz it's already kind of on fire. This [19:38] would have vastly expanded the war and [19:42] we avoided it. We just avoided it. And [19:45] you you rarely you pray to God that bad [19:48] things don't happen. You're angry with [19:50] God when bad things do happen. We [19:53] generally don't thank God that much when [19:55] really bad things are narrowly averted. [19:58] We just don't. It's part of human [20:00] nature. In any case, this raises two big [20:02] questions [20:04] and and they uh concern who is in charge [20:08] of history. You have the religious [20:10] question which is is God totally [20:13] sovereign and in charge of history and [20:16] free will is an illusion or [20:20] are we in charge of history? Is our free [20:23] will absolute? And are we I don't know [20:27] do we live in a kind of deistic world uh [20:29] like around the enlightenment or the uh [20:32] 17th and 18th centuries where he had [20:34] this idea that God you know he kind of [20:36] sets the world and the laws of the world [20:37] but then we do whatever we want and God [20:39] doesn't really concern himself. That's [20:40] the religious question. What is the [20:42] relationship between God's sovereignty [20:45] and free will? a question that has been [20:47] debated in earnest for 4 to 500 years, [20:50] but that has more broadly been debated [20:52] for 2,000 years or more. Then you have [20:55] in the modern era the ideological [20:57] question. So in the modern era, we put [21:00] God aside, we ignore God. And and you [21:02] have this ideological question which is [21:04] who controls history? Individual great [21:07] men or mysterious impersonal forces? You [21:10] know, guns, germs, and steel like that [21:12] stupid Jared Diamond book. [21:15] which is it? And the answer is [21:20] yes. The answer is uh yeah, it's those [21:24] things. [21:26] God's in terms of God's sovereignty and [21:30] human free will. We also coincidentally [21:33] were talking about this last show or two [21:34] shows ago. Uh the consensus of the [21:37] theologians going back to men like St. [21:39] Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinus uh [21:42] including up to some of the Puritan [21:45] writers, the radical Protestant writers [21:47] is that there is uh kind of two levels [21:50] going on here. Human beings really do [21:52] have free will. We are secondary causes [21:54] in the world. Chance and fortuitous [21:57] things really can occur at the very [21:59] least from our perspective. But as a [22:02] primary cause, God is in control of [22:04] history. So a sparrow doesn't fall [22:06] without our father's knowing. Every hair [22:08] on our head is numbered. uh things will [22:11] go according to God's plan and there is [22:12] no confounding God's plan and also we [22:15] have free will. So in in this way uh uh [22:19] will and grace are kind of moving not [22:21] like the gay9 show but like our actual [22:23] free will and God's grace they are [22:25] moving together kind of like a waltz [22:28] where you don't always know who is [22:29] leading you just kind of moving [22:31] together. Okay, you have that. Then on [22:33] the ideological side, this is a little [22:35] more easily resolved. Yes, there are [22:37] historical forces, economic forces, even [22:40] geographic forces to give Jared Diamond [22:42] a tiny little bit of his due in that [22:44] liberal book from 25 years ago that says [22:46] that individual men and particular [22:49] peoples are responsible for nothing. And [22:50] the only reason that Papa New Guinea [22:52] doesn't control the world is because [22:53] they're actually secretly smarter than [22:55] all of us, but their geography is a [22:57] little different or whatever. You know, [22:58] that's totally ridiculous. This episode [23:02] reminds us [23:04] individual men do a lot in the world and [23:08] it's not just the Caesars and it's not [23:10] just the Napoleons, it's also Captain [23:13] Smid Maka [23:16] that Indian pilot's [23:18] wherewithal in that very moment when he [23:21] could have been on the brink of death to [23:22] just open up the door [23:26] certainly changed the course of history [23:28] for 174 people. certainly changed the [23:30] course of history for all of their [23:31] families. Now we're talking about [23:32] thousands of people, but probably [23:34] changed the course of history for entire [23:36] nations, for major wars involving the [23:39] great world powers. [23:41] That guy did it. Had that guy passed out [23:45] a little sooner, had that guy only been [23:47] thinking about himself, not of others, [23:48] had that guy not known how a door works, [23:52] history looks very different. So what [23:55] does that mean for us? The big takeaway [23:56] for us is you can't ignore any of these [23:59] things. At the ideological level, yeah, [24:01] there are for you have to pay attention [24:03] to economics and geography and natural [24:04] limits and natural boundaries in the [24:06] physical world. Yes. But at the [24:09] religious level, [24:12] we have free will. We are held [24:14] responsible for our actions. We are [24:16] called to do certain things. We're not [24:17] supposed to just be babbas sitting on [24:18] the Ganges in a quietest kind of [24:20] politics. We we really h we are called [24:23] upon to do things. And the only way that [24:26] we will do things properly is by [24:28] listening to and discerning God's will [24:30] and and cooperating with God's will. [24:33] That cooperating with God's God's will, [24:35] contr to what modernity tells us, that [24:38] does not diminish our individuality. [24:40] That does not diminish our will and our [24:41] power and our command over things. It [24:44] actually grows them. We become most [24:47] perfectly ourselves when we find our [24:49] identity in God. And we are capable of [24:52] of so much more, really infinitely more [24:55] when we act in accordance with God's [24:57] will, not merely with our own. The faith [24:59] of a mustard seed moves mountains. Okay. [25:01] Now, speaking of individuals and free [25:03] will, a crazy story. A lot of death [25:04] today. A lot of death and then avoiding [25:07] death. But in some cases, the death does [25:08] come. The murder case of Caleb Flynn, [25:13] this American idol star and youth or [25:16] music pastor at a non-denominational [25:19] congregation [25:21] who murdered his wife to please his [25:23] mistress. We'll get to that in a moment. [25:25] People cannot figure out why this guy [25:26] would do it. First though, I want to [25:28] tell you about Pre-born. There's a lot [25:30] more to say. First though, go to [25:31] pre-born.com/nolleskle. 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Now, Preborn wants to [26:13] help rescue 50,000 more babies. You can [26:16] be part of that. Just $28 sponsors an [26:18] ultrasound and can help save a baby's [26:19] life. To give, dial pound 250, say the [26:22] keyword baby. That is pound250 keyword [26:24] baby. Or you can donate securely at [26:27] pre-born.com/nollescanwas. [26:29] That is pre-born.com/nolles. [26:32] Know wle. All gifts are taxdeductible. [26:37] Have you been following this case? I [26:39] don't follow the true crime stuff. I'm [26:42] not like a 40-year-old woman. I don't. [26:44] This is not my main interest. And yet, I [26:48] cannot stop following this case. I don't [26:50] watch American Idol. I never heard of [26:52] this guy before in my life. Caleb Flynn. [26:55] He was a contestant on American Idol. He [26:57] had this beautiful wife. He's got these [26:59] young kids and he he murdered his wife. [27:02] He murdered his wife because he was [27:03] having an affair with some younger [27:04] woman, but he it's not not that it would [27:06] excuse it in any case, but his wife was [27:09] beautiful. His wife was beautiful. She [27:10] seemed really really lovely. And he [27:12] decided he was going to murder his wife [27:13] so that he could be with his mistress. [27:16] And it all fell apart and he got caught. [27:17] And he was just convicted of it [27:19] yesterday. [27:21] And and you look at him, he looks like a [27:22] complete ghoul. This is Caleb Flynn when [27:25] he was on American Idol. [27:28] I love to sing, so that's why I [27:30] auditioned. Maybe my wife kind of nudged [27:32] me a little bit, too. My first thought [27:34] when I got my golden ticket, um, [27:36] honestly, all I could do was cover my [27:38] face because I cried a little bit. Uh, [27:40] I'm kind of a crybaby. I get it from my [27:42] mom and my dad. Um, but it was honestly [27:44] just pure joy, excitement. Um, I tried [27:47] out for American Idol 2 or 3 years ago [27:50] and I didn't make it. And so to get this [27:52] was all the more sweeter and all the [27:54] more uh meaningful. So it was awesome. [27:56] The person that inspires me to be in [27:59] former I guess would say uh would say [28:01] the Lord. Um I'm a music pastor and so [28:04] uh that's my job every week is to go up [28:07] there and to sing and to connect what I [28:10] do on stage to the congregation. So [28:12] first and foremost obviously is the Lord [28:14] thing that makes me unique. You know I [28:16] absolutely love the Lord. I love my wife [28:19] more than anything. She is very very [28:21] pretty. Just I love her. But, you know, [28:24] I'm just a normal person who absolutely [28:27] loves to sing. [28:29] >> Whoa, man. The video makes it so much [28:31] spookier. I think it's it's all this [28:33] backstory that that is what makes the [28:36] case so compelling and so horrifying and [28:38] it makes us a little introspective. He [28:39] says, "Oh, the two things you should [28:41] know about me. I love my wife and I love [28:44] the Lord." Then he goes on to murder his [28:47] wife and betray his God by violating a [28:49] very, very serious commandment. Right [28:51] off the bat, people watching this are [28:54] going to notice this guy's a little [28:55] effeminite. He's a little effeminate. [28:57] He's a little bit of a dogooder. He [28:59] reads like a lib. You know me. Look, I [29:01] cry. You know, I cry a little bit. [29:03] That's me. You know, I'm not afraid to [29:05] say it. You know, I get it from We all [29:07] know guys like this and especially in [29:10] the context of whatever we were talking [29:12] about the Cornell 7 and the relations [29:14] between men and women. Just a a a sign [29:16] to women. If you see a guy like this [29:19] who's really soft and affeminite, maybe [29:21] a little feminist, [29:23] he's real. Run, run. Those guys are [29:25] brutal. Those guys, they're the worst, [29:27] man. You see a guy who's a little a [29:29] little bit tougher, maybe he's a little [29:30] more old-fashioned, a little [29:32] patriarchal. Our modern society says, [29:34] "That guy's the threat to you. That [29:35] guy's not the threat to you. It's the [29:37] feminist guy. It's the soft guy. It's [29:38] the effeminite guy. He's the threat to [29:40] you." There's something wrong. It's [29:42] eerie. It's like that's the first scene [29:43] in the horror movie. And he sets it up. [29:46] It's so on the nose. says, "Oh, you [29:48] know, whatever else. The two things I [29:50] care most about in this world are my [29:52] wife and my God, both of whom he betrays [29:55] in the most spectacular of ways." So, [29:57] here's the guy beforehand, Caleb Flynn. [29:59] He looks good. Good, decent looking guy. [30:01] Look at that beautiful wife. Beautiful, [30:03] lovely wife. They're smiling together. [30:05] Uh, I don't know. They look like they're [30:06] at some museum or something. Maybe [30:08] they're going on vacation. Oh, okay. [30:10] They look nice and young and healthy. [30:11] Fast forward to today. [30:14] This guy looks like a character in [30:17] Dante's Inferno. This guy, if you're [30:19] just listening to the show right now, he [30:21] looks like a demon. He looks like he has [30:23] been hollowed out, sunken cheeks, eyes [30:26] seem to have gone in the back of his [30:27] head. He lost his hair. He It's not just [30:30] that he has aged. It is that he has aged [30:33] miserably. It looks like this is got [30:34] this guy's being rotted out from the [30:36] inside. Not by a physical cancer [30:38] necessarily, though perhaps by a by a [30:40] spiritual cancer that that's has a [30:42] relation to the physical because our [30:44] souls have a relation to our bodies [30:46] because we're hyamorphic beings. Okay. [30:49] Then in this trial, last little clip [30:52] from this trial, the mistress reads out [30:56] the text messages that that husband who [30:58] just loves his wife and loves his God, [31:00] you know, he's a pop singer, he's a [31:02] pastor at this non-denominational [31:04] church. He's just like real. He's just [31:06] like a nice nice real casual feels guy, [31:08] man. These are the texts that he's [31:10] sending to his mistress. [31:22] >> Has she texted these [31:23] >> 64,281? [31:28] >> Sorry. [31:33] I just wish I didn't say this. [31:38] What was the message said? [31:44] >> I didn't mean it. It says [31:49] I want to kill her. Caleb, [31:50] >> who said that? [31:51] >> Me. [31:53] >> Next message. [31:55] >> I said it so bad. [31:57] >> Next message. [31:58] >> He said that makes two of us. [32:06] There are about a hundred thousand of [32:07] these messages. And it's not just him. [32:10] It's the mistress saying, "I just want [32:11] to kill her. I just want to kill your [32:12] wife, the mother of your daughters, so [32:15] that we can be together." He says, "Oh, [32:17] yeah. Me, too." It goes on. I won't I [32:19] won't go through all the texts. He was [32:20] up all night trying to think of ways to [32:22] kill her. If I could kill her without [32:24] being arrested for it, I would do it in [32:26] a heartbeat. And he does. He kills her [32:28] and then he stages the murder scene as [32:30] if it were a break-in. The cops realized [32:32] right away this was not a break-in. In [32:34] fact, when he called 911 dispatch, they [32:36] said, "What happened?" He goes, "My [32:37] wife, there was an intruder and my wife [32:39] was shot in the head twice." [32:41] Shot in the head. If you stumble across [32:43] your wife, god forbid, you stumble [32:45] across your wife dead in a murder scene, [32:47] you're not going to say, "Yeah, I think [32:48] she was shot twice. Once on the right [32:50] side of her head, once on the left side [32:51] of her head," you're not going to give [32:52] that kind of detail. He knows it because [32:54] he did it. So, they catch him doing it. [32:58] Okay, one last bit. I know I said that [32:59] the the reading of of the texts was the [33:01] last bit on the just here's his reaction [33:04] because his reaction is going to cut to [33:06] the core of I think a lot of people's [33:08] misperception of this crime [33:16] >> um in this show is that we have [33:19] >> the lawyers are showing the crime scene [33:20] Caleb Flynn looks at it and he reacts in [33:22] a way that I think is totally genuine [33:24] and sincere. He looks at the crime scene [33:26] he looks horrified. He has to look away. [33:28] He looks like he's going to vomit. [33:31] >> Exhibit 71. [33:32] >> He's crying. He's disgusted. He looks [33:35] scared. [33:37] He looks scared. He looks like a little [33:38] kid. [33:39] >> Um, this was a photograph [33:40] >> looking at the crime scene, looking at [33:42] what he did. And this is the part that [33:46] matters for all of us. [33:48] If this were just a a murder story, you [33:51] say, "Okay, I don't really care. I don't [33:52] care about true crime." [33:54] But this is a story about all of us. [33:56] Because what a lot of people want to say [33:58] about Caleb Flynn is this guy is a stone [34:02] cold sociopath. [34:03] This guy is a stone cold killer. He [34:05] never loved his wife. He never loved his [34:06] god. It was all fake. He's a [34:08] manipulator. [34:10] But he's not. He's not. In fact, his [34:14] transformation [34:15] from that good-looking young guy to this [34:19] demonic looking creature that could come [34:21] out of Dante. To me, that is an evidence [34:24] that this guy, he really in a way did [34:28] love his wife. That this guy is not [34:30] without feeling. That this guy actually [34:32] feels a lot. That he realizes the [34:34] gravity of what he's done. If he were [34:36] just a stone cold sociopath, he'd look [34:38] like Ted Bundy. He wouldn't be bothered [34:40] at all. He'd look at the murder scene. [34:42] It might turn him on. [34:44] That's not what we're seeing. It's very [34:47] easy to write him off as a sociopath [34:49] because that means he's different than [34:50] we are. [34:52] But he's not. The scariest part of this [34:54] story is that that guy is basically no [34:57] different than you and I. The scariest [35:00] part of that story is you look at that [35:01] guy, you say, "There, but for the grace [35:02] of God, go I I could do that. [35:05] I could do that. You could do that." [35:09] Now, I don't think you're going to do I [35:10] don't think I'm going to do that anytime [35:11] soon. [35:12] I know sweet little Elise is listening [35:14] to the show. I'm not going to Don't [35:15] worry. I'm not going to do it. But the [35:16] anthropological point is very important [35:18] here cuz that guy is not fundamentally [35:20] different than any of us. Do you know [35:23] how this happened? You know how he got [35:25] to the point where he murdered his wife, [35:27] the mother of his children for this [35:29] crazy mistress and now he looks like [35:31] he's being rotted out and he's going to [35:32] spend the rest of his life in prison or [35:34] or be executed. I don't know exactly [35:35] what the punishment is. Do you know how [35:37] that happened? It happened because of a [35:40] lot of little sins. It happened because [35:43] I bet that guy I bet he was looking at [35:46] pornography. I bet I don't know that for [35:48] a fact, but I bet I don't think you go [35:50] from totally happy married family guy [35:53] with a beautiful wife to murdering your [35:56] wife or your mistress without some [35:58] intermediary step. I you know what I bet [36:01] it started out? He started looking at [36:03] the girls in the congregation and some [36:05] of those girls look pretty nice, you [36:06] know, and then maybe he looked at some [36:08] girls on the internet and some of them [36:10] look pretty nice, too. Maybe he was [36:11] talking to some of them. He was [36:12] obviously talking to his mistress and [36:14] then he escalated it a little further. [36:16] Then he goes out and then he goes and [36:18] has coffee with the mistress and then he [36:20] escalates it a little further. Maybe [36:21] then he gets a motel room with the [36:23] mistress. Oo, just once though and then [36:26] maybe he does it twice and then maybe [36:28] they're talking a little bit. Then maybe [36:30] he starts talking about divorcing his [36:32] wife, but he can't divorce his wife [36:33] because his career requires him to be a [36:34] pastor at this non-denominational [36:36] church. So he can't if he divorced his [36:38] wife that'd be a huge scandal. He can't [36:40] do that. but he really wants to be with [36:41] his mistress. Well, the only way he can [36:42] I guess I guess if his wife died then he [36:44] could be with his mistress. And he [36:45] starts fantasizing about that. Then he's [36:47] entertaining all of these thoughts in [36:49] his mind. He's chewing on them. He's [36:51] then he's staying up late and he's [36:52] thinking it's just a fantasy. But maybe [36:54] what if my what if my wife died? What if [36:56] I killed her? Well, that would be a way [36:57] that she could die. And then and then [36:59] he's living more and more of his life in [37:02] this kind of fantasy. And the more he [37:04] does that, more he's thinking about [37:05] these awful things, more he's doing some [37:07] awful things, the less he's doing the [37:08] good things, the less he's thinking [37:09] about others, the less he's thinking [37:10] about his kids, less he's thinking about [37:11] his wife. And it's this turning of the [37:15] will, this total turning away from what [37:19] he should be doing, away from God, into [37:21] all of this evil. And the thing about [37:22] the relation of the mind and the will is [37:25] that eventually the fantasy starts to [37:27] become reality. This is I mentioned [37:30] Dante earlier. We haven't talked about [37:31] Dante enough on the show recently. The [37:33] final lines of Dante is that uh uh well [37:37] actually the final lines of the canacles [37:39] involve the turning of Dante's will. And [37:42] then the final line of the whole poem is [37:43] that he looks up and he sees the sun [37:45] that moves the sun the other stars. This [37:47] idea of this turning of this movement of [37:49] going of doing something and eventually [37:53] he does it and he can't it happens so [37:56] fast. Do you know the the one of the [38:00] most basic aspects of sin is that sin is [38:02] really stupid. It's absurd. It's [38:04] contrary to reason and it's contrary to [38:06] our flourishing and it just makes us [38:08] unhappy even though if we think it makes [38:10] us happy in the short run. And what's so [38:12] scary is this guy realizes that he's [38:15] done basically the most awful thing you [38:16] can imagine. And [38:21] it's like a revelation to him looking at [38:23] that on the screen. It's like a [38:24] revelation. How did I get here? And the [38:27] thing is all of hopefully none of us [38:28] have like murdered our wives or anything [38:30] but all of us it's we've all done [38:32] something that we regret [38:34] and we it's hard to how did we get here? [38:37] It didn't it doesn't just happen in a in [38:40] a flash. It happens with all those [38:42] little things and all those little [38:44] things the rot begins. That is what sin [38:47] does. That is how sin works. And it [38:49] should be a big wakeup call when you [38:52] want to do that just that little bad [38:53] thing. Just that tiny little ah I just [38:55] want to do a little gossip at work. Just [38:58] a little bit of just I want to I want to [39:00] scream at that guy when I'm driving on [39:02] the road. A little bit of road rage. I [39:03] want to use those naughty words. Just [39:05] that's a what's the big deal? I want to [39:06] look at some naked ladies on the [39:07] internet. H I just want to I want to [39:09] flirt with that uh and you think you can [39:12] control it but you can't. And eventually [39:17] left unchecked [39:19] but for the grace of God you end up like [39:21] that guy. Okay, speaking of crimes or [39:24] potential crimes, I do want to turn to [39:25] the Cornell 7 because you want to talk [39:28] about shocking turns of providence. [39:30] Sunonny Host on the view is suddenly [39:32] become the voice of reason in this [39:34] Cornell case. First though, my favorite [39:35] comment yesterday is from Jimbo Andy who [39:38] says, uh, if can be debated, I think it [39:42] can be debated if the death penalty will [39:44] deter or reduce crime, but it is a fact [39:47] that it will stop repeat offenders. [39:49] That's true. There's no question about [39:50] that. [39:51] That does work. That's You don't need a [39:53] PhD in criminology to know that. Sunny [39:56] Host. Well, all of the libs were going [39:59] after these Cornell kids who engaged in [40:02] this pretty gross orgy with this girl [40:05] who appeared pretty willing to do it, [40:07] but now she's claiming that she was [40:08] raped. Uh well, all all the libs are [40:11] going after these guys. They're going to [40:12] reopen the criminal case based on this [40:14] new civil lawsuit. a civil lawsuit which [40:16] contradicts apparently what the supposed [40:18] victim told to the school and the police [40:21] in the early stages. After all the [40:23] hearings from the schools that were [40:24] definitely biased against the guys but [40:26] didn't find any uh criminal wrongdoing, [40:30] Sunonny Hosting comes in and says, "Hey, [40:31] you know what? They're not guilty." [40:35] >> I I actually have the statement um that [40:39] um Jane Doe wrote at that time and um [40:43] >> just give it to us in a sentence. We [40:44] don't have a lot of time. [40:45] >> Um, it's it's it's several pages long. I [40:48] know, but [40:48] >> it's nine pages long. And I will say [40:50] that under current New York State law, [40:53] voluntary intoxication or drug use, and [40:56] she voluntarily drank a lot. She [40:58] voluntarily took uh snorted ketamine off [41:02] of an one of the boys's body parts. She [41:04] allowed other boys and consented to [41:07] other boys uh snorting ketamine off of [41:09] her body. So that means if you [41:12] voluntarily ingest drugs, you [41:14] voluntarily take alcohol, [41:17] you can agree to have threesomes, which [41:20] in her statement she agreed to have two [41:23] separate threesomes. [41:25] One boy did walk in, one young man did [41:27] walk in and say everybody out. [41:29] >> So there was one person that did that [41:32] >> and according to her statement, three of [41:34] the young men did not touch her. The [41:37] pictures of these young men who have not [41:39] been charged not been adjudicated are [41:42] being plastered all over the internet. I [41:44] think people are reporting this story [41:46] inaccurately. I think they're reporting [41:49] it unfairly. And while this is something [41:51] that we have to take very seriously, [41:53] there is no way according to her [41:55] statement in 2024 that any prosecutor [41:58] would have brought. [41:59] >> Yeah, but she was intoxic. [42:00] >> Voice of reason, Sunny Host didn't see [42:03] that one coming. And why is she saying [42:05] this one? I think that maybe some of the [42:08] news networks learned a lesson from that [42:10] Duke Lacrosse case. This seems like a [42:12] repeat of the Duke Lacrosse case from 20 [42:14] 25 years ago when the these uh [42:17] prostitutes or strippers came went over [42:19] to the Duke Lacrosse House and they said [42:22] that the Duke Lacrosse team raped them [42:24] and these the lives of these kids were [42:26] ruined and then it turned out it was [42:28] fake. They didn't they didn't they hired [42:30] the strippers but no one raped anybody. [42:32] It was just totally made up and these [42:33] kids' lives were ruined for nothing. I [42:35] think maybe the news networks are [42:37] saying, "All right, well, look, when [42:38] we're faced with basically the exact [42:40] same case, maybe we should be a little [42:42] slower to condemn these guys, especially [42:45] when all the evidence we do have is that [42:47] they didn't commit a crime." So, you've [42:49] got the the conservatives, you have [42:52] these right-wingers who are saying, [42:54] "Hold on, this this is just me too." But [42:56] it's even more absurd because there's no [42:58] evidence of any criminal wrongdoing here [43:00] other than drugs and booze. And even [43:03] here you have the liberals, the [43:04] leftists. So then the question is, what [43:07] are we arguing about? What are we [43:09] talking about when it comes to the [43:11] Cornell case? Who knows? I mean, I [43:13] they'll maybe reopen the criminal [43:15] investigation. Maybe they'll prosecute. [43:16] I I suspect they won't ultimately [43:19] because for the same reason that they [43:20] didn't prosecute two years ago because [43:22] the evidence just isn't there. This [43:24] woman is now changing her story and [43:25] making all sorts of claims in a civil [43:27] lawsuit. That's to be expected. There's [43:29] really not a lot of evidence. There were [43:30] multiple hearings about this on campus, [43:32] the campus which is especially at that [43:35] time inclined to believe the women and [43:37] to take away the rights of the men and [43:39] it didn't there's not a lot of evidence [43:40] here. So what are we talking about? [43:43] It seems to me that the left is doing [43:46] what it always does and it is [43:48] reinventing Christian morality from [43:50] first principles first or second [43:52] principles. I don't know. The the left [43:53] comes in in the 1960s and they say, [43:56] "Hey, you stodgy Christian [43:57] conservatives, your sexual morals and [44:00] principles are awful. They're terrible. [44:01] We're going to blow them up. Now we're [44:03] going to have free love and we're going [44:04] to have contraception and we're going to [44:06] have LGBT stuff and we're going to [44:08] eventually abolish marriage and redefine [44:10] it and we're going to you deal with [44:13] that. You dumb conservatives. This is [44:14] the age of Aquarius. We're all going to [44:16] be liberated." And so we say, "Okay, we [44:18] lost. All right, that's fine. The libs [44:20] redid sexual morality." Okay. I mean, [44:22] now they didn't really remake morality, [44:24] but they remade all of our mores and [44:25] laws and standards. Okay. And then what [44:27] happens? Everything goes to pot. This is [44:30] like um a Heronomous Bosch painting. You [44:33] know, it just you you get the the the [44:36] morning, the age of Aquarius. [44:38] Everything's going to look really really [44:39] nice. And you get to the end of the [44:40] garden of earthly delights and it's just [44:42] decadence and decay and filth and it's [44:45] so disgusting. And then the libs say, [44:47] "Well, this is gross. Hold on. We can't [44:50] have this." You know, I mean, look, even [44:52] if someone didn't violate the letter of [44:53] the law, they clearly violated some [44:56] principle, but they don't know how to [44:57] say it because they don't they they [44:59] refuse to use the language of [45:01] traditional morality and Christian [45:03] morality. So, they say, "No, no, no. It [45:04] just it something went wrong." And even [45:06] though the girl said basically the whole [45:08] time, I am consenting to this. I'm not [45:10] consenting to that. I do consent to [45:11] this. I do. It the the orgy began when [45:13] she wanted it to. It ended when she [45:15] wanted it to. The thing she wanted to [45:16] have happen happened. The thing she said [45:18] she didn't want to have happen didn't [45:19] happen. It It was It's basically as [45:22] clear-cut a case amid a ketamine fueled [45:26] orgy as you can possibly imagine. And [45:28] they say implausibly, [45:30] well, even though she said all of those [45:31] things, even though she affirmatively [45:33] consented the whole time, it has to have [45:36] been rape. It has to Even if she said, [45:40] "I'm consenting." Even if the law says [45:42] she was consenting, it can't have been [45:44] consensual because we know it was wrong. [45:46] And they're you're right. It was wrong. [45:48] You're right. But you're you're you [45:52] don't possess the moral language to [45:53] explain why it was wrong. So you're [45:55] saying something that isn't true. And [45:57] you're trying to prosecute them for a [45:59] crime they didn't commit. [46:01] But you you have you do have this modest [46:03] inkling of a true intuition, which is [46:07] that yeah, this is wrong. But hey, I've [46:10] got instead of just like redefining [46:12] words and redefining consent and [46:14] expostfacto trying to change the law and [46:17] throw these guys in prison or whatever, [46:18] I have an idea. What if we just return [46:21] to the Christian morality that's served [46:23] our civilization for nearly 2,000 years? [46:25] What if we just do that? Because if we [46:28] do that, your your problems will be [46:30] resolved. Same thing when when they [46:32] complain about the libs complain about [46:34] how women have this double standard. [46:35] They're expected to go out there and [46:36] where they have to go out and work [46:37] today, but they're also expected to keep [46:39] home and cook and clean. And you know, [46:41] these women, they're expected to go out [46:42] and work, but they want to stay home and [46:44] raise their kids. And this is a horrible [46:45] double standard. I say, "Hey, I've got a [46:47] solution for you, and you don't need big [46:50] federal policies for it. And you don't [46:53] you don't need to like fundamentally [46:54] change human nature. You can just do [46:56] what women did forever, and men can do [47:00] what men did forever, what they're [47:01] naturally inclined to do, and everyone [47:03] will be happier." No. No. No, no, we [47:05] can't do that. That's conservative and [47:07] Christian and Okay. All right. So, we're [47:08] just going to keep [47:11] uh wrongly reinventing, inaccurately [47:15] reinventing Christian morality from [47:17] first principles. Okay. All right. [47:18] Whatever. Hypocrisy is the tribute vice [47:20] based to virtue. A lot more I want to [47:21] get to, but today's theology Thursday. 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