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Deep in the boughels of a [00:39] hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick [00:42] and steel of a nondescript building, [00:44] we've once again made contact with our [00:46] leader, Mark. Love. [00:53] Heat. [01:04] Heat. [01:14] Heat up [01:33] here. [02:05] Hello America, Mark Levin here. Our [02:07] number 877381-3811 [02:11] 877381-3811. [02:14] I have to be honest. I always am. I [02:17] can't get all worked up and excited [02:19] about G's visit to our country. Can you, [02:21] Mr. Producer? [02:23] This guy's building the biggest military [02:25] imaginable other than ours [02:28] for the purpose of threatening us in [02:31] Japan and Australia and New Zealand and [02:34] South Korea and [02:37] so forth and so on. [02:39] This guy with the virus did enormous [02:42] damage to our country, killed a lot of [02:44] people in this country, made a lot of [02:46] people quite sick in this country and [02:48] did damage to our economy. [02:51] And this guy is stealing us blind like [02:53] the F-35 parts, [02:56] stealing AI critical information. [03:00] He's providing satellite imagery to the [03:03] Iranian Nazi regime in Thrron to kill [03:07] our service people and so forth. And so [03:09] I c I just can't get worked up in a [03:12] positive way about this guy and I'm not [03:13] going to. [03:15] That said, I know the president is not [03:17] just about pomp and circumstance here. [03:20] And it's crucially important that we not [03:23] make any deal with them on AI, on [03:26] artificial intelligence. It really is [03:28] critical because they will steal us [03:31] blind. And I might add while I'm at it, [03:34] same with the Iranian regime that now [03:36] says they want a deal before the midterm [03:37] elections. Why? [03:41] This is, as I've been saying for years, [03:44] a civilizational battle. A [03:46] civilizational battle. We the civilized [03:49] against the barbarians. They don't view [03:51] this as a nation state versus a nation [03:54] state. [03:56] They just want to survive. [03:59] Which brings me to Benjamin Netanyahu. [04:02] Wow, what a blockbuster speech that was [04:04] at the United Nations. I'm just saying. [04:07] I want you to keep something in mind. [04:10] He is the prime minister of a country of [04:12] about 10 million people. A country that [04:15] is it's not even the size of New Jersey [04:19] and yet has one of the most powerful [04:22] militaries on the face of the earth. [04:24] Most powerful technologies on the face [04:26] of the earth, a very vigorous economy [04:29] and a people who are willing to fight [04:30] for their survival. They have a will to [04:32] live. [04:36] It's one thing to be a leader and we [04:39] have them all over the world of big [04:41] countries with big populations and big [04:43] militaries and big economies. [04:46] It's another thing to be a leader of a [04:49] very small country with a very small [04:51] population that is geographically vulner [04:53] vulnerable to god knows how many [04:56] terrorist enemies, terrorist states, [04:59] armies and so forth and so on. That's [05:02] different. [05:04] That takes a special kind of individual. [05:07] And Netanyahu has been prime minister [05:09] off and on there for 14 years. And if [05:12] the Israelis are smart, they're going to [05:14] elect him again. [05:18] Here he was at the UN today. I want our [05:22] Persian friends to take a listen. They [05:24] know because nobody speaks better and [05:27] louder and more aggressively on behalf [05:30] of the Persian people, the Iranian [05:32] people, than Benjamin Netanyahu. [05:35] Cut 23. Go. [05:37] >> Despite your silence, despite your [05:40] hypocrisy, it's only a matter of time [05:43] that in Iran something incredible will [05:47] happen. The power of the people will [05:50] overcome the people in power. [05:57] I want you to listen to my words [05:59] carefully. One day, and it may not be [06:03] far away, the Iranian people will be [06:07] free. Their murderous regime will be [06:10] toppled by its lies, by its corruption, [06:13] by its cruelty. This evil regime will [06:17] fall, and we will all celebrate that [06:20] day. [06:21] Amen to that. [06:24] Amen to that. [06:28] Cut one, Mr. Producer. Go. [06:30] >> Devastating Iran's nuclear facilities [06:34] was hard. [06:36] It was very hard to do. [06:40] But for me, [06:42] it was one of the easiest decisions I've [06:45] ever had to make as prime minister. [06:48] Because if we hadn't done it, [06:51] we'd all be dead. [06:54] Now, you want to hear the ultimate irony [06:58] in defending itself? [07:00] Israel is alo also defending many of the [07:04] countries whose delegates just left this [07:07] hall. [07:08] In fact, [07:10] I want you to know that many of their [07:13] leaders even thank us privately for [07:16] taking out Iran's nukes. [07:20] It's hard to imagine more mindblowing [07:22] hypocrisy, but that's exactly what it [07:24] is. [07:25] >> It is. And it's hard to imagine in our [07:28] own country, [07:30] we have people like former Congressman [07:32] Matt Gates, [07:35] who's rooting for Hamas against Israel, [07:39] who's rooting for Iran against our [07:42] military, who claims to be a MAGA [07:45] America first as he trashes what the [07:48] commander-in-chief has been trying to do [07:50] now for months. And he's not alone. We [07:53] have an entire woke reich REIC, [07:56] an entire woke right movement, [07:58] isolationists, some of them even [08:00] neofascists, [08:03] who are undermining our midterm [08:04] elections, who are giving aid and [08:06] comfort to our enemies. And then they [08:09] claim to be the real patriots. You see, [08:13] the real patriots. [08:15] And look at the backgrounds of these [08:17] people. They're former congressmen and [08:20] congresswomen for a reason. [08:24] Some of them are stuck behind podcast [08:26] for a reason. They've been to prison. [08:30] They have plead guilty to stay out of [08:31] prison. It's amazing. [08:35] And it's not just the woke right, [08:39] isolationists, and neofascists. [08:42] We've got people like Hassan Puker. [08:47] But there's not a great difference [08:48] between a Hassan Pucer and a no pants [08:51] Matt Gates. [08:53] Their views overlap on a lot of things. [08:56] Their Jew hatred, their Israel hatred, [08:59] their Netanyahu hatred. [09:02] They overlap on a lot of things. [09:07] They simply do. Here's Netanyahu at the [09:09] UN today. Cut two. Go. In this battle [09:12] against the barbarians, [09:15] we've had no greater partner than [09:18] President Trump. I thank him. [09:21] >> Amen. Amen. [09:26] >> I thank him for his bold leadership. [09:29] He boldly confronted an enormous danger [09:32] to America, Israel, and the world. [09:36] Decades ago, he understood that if left [09:39] unchallenged, the fanatic Ayatollas who [09:42] chant death to America, death to Israel, [09:46] would eventually carry out their mad [09:48] fantasies. [09:50] >> So, Israel and America acted together [09:53] not only to protect ourselves, [09:56] but to save civilization. [10:00] Brave American pilots alongside brave [10:03] Israeli pilots flew joint missions over [10:06] the skies of Iran. America and Israel [10:10] also work together to bring back our [10:13] remaining hostages. We brought back [10:16] every last one of them. [10:25] You ask why are we winning? Well, Yonyi [10:29] said it simply, "We have no other [10:32] choice." [10:34] his older brother who died in Antbi. [10:39] He told the story and I'll just truncate [10:41] it here, but [10:44] when he talked to his brother, the ' 67 [10:47] war, 1967, [10:50] wondering if they can win [10:52] and his older brother Yoni said, "We [10:56] have no other choice. [10:59] We have to win. [11:04] This is truly a heroic individual. [11:08] Israel has been fighting [11:10] the war of Western civilization against [11:13] the barbarians. [11:15] And before President Trump joined Israel [11:18] and Israel joined us, they were pretty [11:21] much on their own [11:23] with Obama and Biden who were funding [11:25] the enemy, who were appeasing the enemy. [11:28] And you see this is the problem with the [11:30] woke right isolationists and the [11:32] neofascists. This is the problem with [11:34] former no pants congressmen like Gates [11:38] and so forth and so on. They really push [11:42] the Biden Obama agenda. [11:46] They appease to the terrorist states and [11:48] the enemies. [11:50] They give aid and comfort to the Iranian [11:53] regime and all their surrogates. They [11:55] give aid and comfort domestically. [11:58] to the Muslim Brotherhood. They give aid [12:00] and comfort to Hassan Puker Mandami and [12:05] his ilk. [12:09] The enemy is not [12:12] Donald Trump. The enemy is not [12:15] Benjamin Netanyahu. The enemy is not the [12:18] United States. The enemy is not Israel. [12:25] We're the good guys. [12:28] We're the very good guys. [12:31] We'll be right back. [12:32] >> Much love in [12:43] you know as if to prove Netanyahu's [12:46] point about how the media [12:49] treat Israel. [12:52] CNN, MS Now, the main networks did not [12:56] cover his speech, only Foxed it of the [13:01] big cable and TV platforms beginning to [13:05] end. [13:07] And then they claimed to be about [13:09] freedom of the press. And I want to get [13:11] to that judge's decision eventually [13:13] because it's pathetic. [13:15] And he's a Trump appointee. That's you, [13:18] Kelly. Judge Kelly. I'm talking to you. [13:21] One of the most dim-witted opinions I've [13:23] ever read. You really did avoid the [13:24] First Amendment, didn't you? You went to [13:26] due process. That's as pathetic as it [13:28] gets. [13:30] But more on that later. Hopefully, I'll [13:31] get to it. [13:34] But that said, [13:37] you've got [13:39] 50, 60, 70, 80 of these thugs who give [13:44] speeches at the United Nations, which we [13:46] should shut down, kick their asses out [13:48] of the country and start our own, as [13:52] I've told you for decades, [13:54] our own organization [13:56] of democratic countries [13:59] sit there and listen to these mass [14:01] murders and so forth and so on. If we [14:03] need to talk to them, talk to them [14:05] oneonone. We don't need to be part of an [14:06] organization with them. That's [14:09] globalism, America. That's the [14:12] globalists, America. Now, [14:17] it didn't cover his speech. [14:20] But every time they're attacked, [14:22] every time a liar from Gaza issued a [14:26] report about genocide and what was going [14:28] on there, the media ran with it. The New [14:30] York Slimes, the Constipated News [14:31] Network were the worst. Politico, a [14:34] disaster website, [14:37] MS Now, all the rest of them. [14:41] And report after report now demonstrates [14:44] it was not genocide. There was no [14:46] famine. And then you even have [14:48] podcasters. [14:51] They don't walk it back. They don't [14:52] apologize. They don't correct anything. [14:54] They continue burping up their crap. [15:00] former me former members of Congress who [15:02] had to resign because they can't keep [15:05] their p pants on or their skirt down. [15:11] Here's Netanyao at the UN today about [15:13] the social media war. Cut three, go. [15:16] >> For three years, our brave soldiers have [15:19] been valiantly fighting a sevenfront [15:21] war. [15:23] But there's an eighth front to this war. [15:26] It's a war for truth. It is waged in the [15:30] world's media [15:32] and most perniciously [15:34] in social media. [15:36] Several foreign countries [15:39] have spent untold billions to spread [15:42] lies about my country. [15:45] The first to do so was Qatar. [15:49] Decades ago, it started massively [15:52] funding American universities and toxic [15:55] media outlets like Al Jazzer. [15:58] They did the same in Europe, by the way. [16:00] And their goal was clear. Brainwash [16:03] young minds to hate Israel, hate [16:05] America, hate the West. This is the same [16:09] Qatar that hosts the kamas butchers of [16:12] October 7th. [16:14] Now, the latest country to become a [16:17] super spreader of anti-semitic lies is [16:20] Turkey. Erdogan [16:23] Erdogan is a tyrant. He also hosts the [16:26] Kamas terror chiefs. He has murdered [16:29] thousands of Kurdish civilians. He [16:32] denies the Armenian genocide. He jails [16:36] journalists and opposition leaders. In [16:38] fact, I think he holds the world's [16:40] record on this. And that's a tough call, [16:43] but I think he's number one. He [16:45] illegally occupies northern Cyprus, an [16:48] EU member, and he regularly transgresses [16:51] against Greece, a NATO member. Now, he [16:54] wants to take over Syria. Well, that's [16:57] not surprising [16:58] because he calls for Israel's [17:00] destruction [17:02] almost every single day. He says he's [17:04] going to be the ruler of Jerusalem. [17:07] No, sir, you won't. This is our country, [17:12] our city, our eternal capital. [17:18] >> I don't think he's deserving of F-35s, [17:20] America. Do you? [17:22] No, I don't think so. [17:26] Then he deals with Mandami. [17:29] He eviscerates Mandami, who, let's face [17:32] it, is an Islamist [17:34] Marxist with a low IQ. [17:38] A low IQ. [17:40] and he is the enemy within. [17:43] And no, I'm not I'm not excited when the [17:45] president meets with him, goes to Gracie [17:48] Mansion, says we can work together. [17:52] Nope. He's the enemy within [17:55] and there's no doubting it and there's [17:57] no dealing with it. I'll be right back. [18:06] He's driving the media mad. Mark [18:09] Leavvin, call in with your outrage. [18:12] 8773813811. [18:16] We continue to pray for Ambassador [18:19] Lighter's [18:21] son. Lost his first son 3 years ago in [18:24] Gaza. [18:26] He's quite a remarkable man. Is the [18:29] ambassador. He has a son with special [18:32] needs as well. [18:34] And while he's been watching over his [18:39] son who was attacked by a Palestinian [18:42] terrorist who had massive head injuries [18:45] and an 11-hour brain surgery [18:49] um and as the surgeon said he's not [18:52] close to being out of the woods. [18:55] Um, his daughter [18:59] was giving birth [19:01] to a granddaughter, I believe, on the [19:04] floor right above. [19:08] You know, these uh [19:12] these people in the government with [19:13] Israel, they put everything on the line. [19:15] You know, the prime minister was wounded [19:16] in battle. He lost his older brother at [19:19] Intebi, to a sniper. Here you have the [19:23] ambassador to the United States who lost [19:25] his eldest son [19:28] and now his second son [19:30] is in critical highly critical [19:33] condition. [19:37] They all serve [19:39] they all serve [19:42] and they all put everything on the line. [19:50] And so we wish we wish him continued. [19:53] Our prayers continue. [19:56] Uh he's a family friend. He is a decent [20:00] and kind human being. Very very smart. [20:05] Netanyahu to Mandami. [20:09] Cut four. Go. [20:10] >> Mr. Mandani. [20:13] Since you were elected mayor of this [20:15] city, many Jews no longer feel safe in [20:18] New York. They talk to me. They tell me, [20:22] "This isn't the city we remember. It [20:25] changed so quickly. Now it's no wonder." [20:29] You praise criminals convicted of [20:31] supporting kamas. [20:33] You count as friends people like Hassan [20:35] who said, "America deserved 911." [20:39] America deserved 911. some friends you [20:43] have. You invite into your home a [20:46] Palestinian journalist who filled Hamas [20:48] terrorists, beating and torturing [20:50] Israeli hostages and later admitted that [20:54] he refused to publish the videos in [20:56] order to protect, you guessed it, the [20:59] terrorists. [21:01] Your wife liked a post praising the [21:03] October 7th massacre. She liked another [21:06] post saying Tel Aviv shouldn't exist. [21:10] You refuse to condemn any of that. You [21:13] falsely, repeatedly accuse Israel of [21:15] genocide. [21:17] Mr. Mamdani, [21:19] you tried to stop me from coming here. [21:22] You tried You try to silence me. Well, [21:26] you can't silence me. You can't silence [21:29] the truth. [21:33] >> Let's go to cut five. Go. [21:35] >> Israel didn't commit genocide. Israel [21:38] prevented genocide. [21:45] And that's exactly that's exactly what [21:48] Mr. Mani's kamas buddies would have done [21:51] to us had we not stopped them. They [21:55] would have killed every last one of us. [21:59] The lies you and other anti-semmites [22:01] spread about the Jews and the Jewish [22:04] state have real consequences. In New [22:07] York, Jews are threatened on the way to [22:10] synagogue. Jews have been stabbed in the [22:13] streets. Jews are demonized, targeted. [22:17] They're targeted [22:19] simply for being Jews. [22:22] Jews have been murdered in Sydney, [22:24] Manchester, Montreal, Boulder, Colorado. [22:27] They've been attacked in Los Angeles, [22:29] London, Paris, Berlin, Washington DC. [22:33] The anti-semites of the world want to [22:36] terrify our people. I have news for [22:39] them. The days when Jews were [22:41] defenseless victims marched to the [22:44] slaughter, those days are over. [22:48] >> Mhm. [22:50] Couple more. Netanyahu to the [22:53] protesters, many of whom were outside of [22:55] the building. and cut six. Go [22:57] >> to the protesters outside [23:00] to the hypocr hypocritical delegates who [23:02] left us all. I ask, [23:05] where were you [23:07] when the Iranian tyrants butchered and [23:11] maimed tens of thousands of unarmed [23:14] Iranian civilians? [23:16] When they butchered and maimed thousands [23:18] of their own people. Where were you? Did [23:22] you organize mass rallies? hunger [23:25] strikes. Did you protest outside the [23:28] Iranian mission to the UN? Did you speak [23:31] out for that matter for Christians [23:33] persecuted in Iran and throughout the [23:35] Middle East? No. No, you didn't do that [23:38] because you're phony human rights [23:41] protesters [23:43] on Christians. Do you know that their [23:45] numbers are plummeting everywhere in the [23:48] Middle East where they're being [23:49] persecuted and hounded except one place, [23:52] my country, Israel, where the Christian [23:54] community is growing, thriving, [23:56] succeeding [24:00] >> and I've been there and it's absolutely [24:02] true. [24:04] And there are Arabs. And there are Arab [24:07] Muslims. And there are [24:11] black people from Ethiopia who are Jews. [24:13] And there are Jews [24:17] and of course Christians. [24:21] People of every background, every color, [24:23] every faith. It's funny that that they [24:26] call Israel a parttheid. Do the uh Jew [24:30] haters. You want to see apartheid, you [24:32] go to any majority Muslim country, [24:36] you'll see lepar tid [24:39] any. [24:41] And finally, cut seven go. [24:43] >> Two days ago in Judea, Samaria, a [24:46] reserve officer, a reserve soldier, [24:49] Naral Lighter, was mowed down by a [24:52] drivedown terrorist, Palestinian [24:55] terrorist. [24:57] He's fighting for his life now in a [24:59] Jerusalem hospital. [25:02] I visited the family right before I [25:04] boarded the plane to come here. Nara, a [25:08] father of four, is the son of Ya [25:11] Lighter, our brilliant ambassador to the [25:14] United States. [25:16] Three years ago, Yel's oldest son, Mount [25:19] Moshe, a father of six, was killed while [25:24] clearing a booby trap building in Gaza. [25:28] Y, my brother, [25:31] your pain is immeasurable. [25:34] The entire people of Israel and many [25:37] outside of Israel are praying for [25:40] Nirya's life. [25:43] But despite the pain, despite the agony, [25:47] we do not give in. [25:50] In a recent post before he was attacked, [25:53] Nara wrote this. [25:56] Listen to this. We have no other [26:00] country. It's a privilege to defend it. [26:04] To Nya and to all the heroes of Israel, [26:08] I pledge a sacred vow. Your sacrifice [26:12] will not be in vain. We will continue to [26:15] defend our state. We will continue to [26:19] win because we have no other choice. [26:26] >> And then uh Ambassador Lighter himself [26:31] at a press conference yesterday in [26:33] Israel. Kad go. We're asking for [26:36] prayers. And I've received prayers from [26:38] friends all over the world, Jews and [26:40] non-Jews alike, millions of people, who [26:44] understand not only the friendship they [26:46] have with me, [26:49] but they understand the meaning of what [26:51] Hamas is, [26:54] of what Iran is, of what the attempt to [26:57] eradicate the Jewish state is. [27:01] I want to at this point bring in the [27:05] president of Argentina, Javier Malay, [27:08] who is a huge supporter of Netanyahu and [27:10] Israel, a huge supporter of the United [27:12] States. [27:14] He's fantastic [27:18] and he just eviscerates the United [27:21] Nations. [27:24] And after he gives his speech or after [27:26] rather the prime minister of Israel gave [27:28] his speech, he went and he met the prime [27:31] minister of Israel. They're very very [27:33] good friends. [27:36] Argentina, [27:38] Colombia, [27:40] a number of Latin American countries now [27:43] that are run by conservatives [27:45] as well as a number of European [27:47] countries that are Eastern European [27:49] countries. for the most part [27:52] the president of one of those countries [27:54] we couldn't schedule it I guess Rich he [27:56] wanted to come on the program Serbia [27:57] right [28:00] he's been trying to come on trying to [28:02] make room at his request I said [28:04] absolutely come on he's a big fan of [28:06] mine in this program apparently isn't [28:08] that isn't that true [28:11] the president of Serbia [28:15] I believe when the vice president of our [28:17] country said that Israel's been isolated [28:19] Honestly, he doesn't know what he's [28:20] talking about. [28:22] India, Greece, Somali land. [28:28] Countries throughout our hemisphere, [28:29] countries throughout Eastern Europe. [28:34] Just ridiculous. [28:39] Just ridiculous. Here he is, president [28:42] of Argentina, Javier Malay. Cut 10 go. [28:46] >> That's to say it's become a useless. [28:48] >> Well, let me let me say this. the [28:49] translator obviously. Go ahead. [28:52] >> That's to say it's become a useless [28:54] organization whose only purpose is to [28:57] sustain a cast of fatally arrogant [28:59] parasites masquerading as [29:01] well-intentioned bureaucrats. I would [29:04] remind them of what Mises said. Good [29:07] people do not think about controlling [29:08] the lives of their fellow human beings. [29:11] Those who were supposed to guarantee [29:12] collective security and human rights [29:14] failed in their task. Instead, they [29:17] allowed chaos, violence, and [29:18] international terrorism to flourish. The [29:21] alleged offenders of human rights have [29:24] sheltered bloodthirsty dictatorships and [29:26] regimes that stone women in the streets. [29:29] They have systematically voted against [29:31] Israel while remaining silent in the [29:33] face of Islamic terrorism and the [29:35] genocide of Christians in Africa. And as [29:39] if that were not enough, an organization [29:41] established to defend the territorial [29:43] sovereignty of its members decided to [29:46] look the other way with regard to the [29:47] situation of the Malvinus Islands, South [29:49] Georgia Islands, and South Sandwich [29:51] Islands, and the surrounding maritime [29:52] areas. [29:56] >> He's just fantastic. We'll be right [29:58] back. [29:59] >> Much love in [30:09] We're going to go through this judge's [30:11] opinion [30:13] as only we can together. [30:16] You know, I had uh somebody say to me, [30:19] and I I want you to know this about [30:20] yourselves, Mr. and Mrs. America. I want [30:22] you to know about the people in this [30:25] audience. You, some of you are at your [30:27] dinner table, some of you just making [30:29] dinner. Some of you in your car or maybe [30:32] you're in the bus or maybe in your [30:34] truck. Some of you may still be working. [30:36] I want you to know something. [30:40] In the course of the last 48 hours, I've [30:42] had a very important governor, you can [30:46] guess who, [30:48] and a very important senator say exactly [30:50] the same thing to me. [30:54] The Levvin audience is the smartest [30:56] audience. And a Levvin audience [31:01] actually reads books and Levvin audience [31:04] wants to hear history and philosophy and [31:06] they want to learn about the [31:07] constitution. [31:10] This audience you are very very special [31:14] very special or you wouldn't be here [31:15] right [31:17] or you wouldn't be here. [31:21] You don't have to have a college degree [31:23] a four-year degree an advanced degree or [31:26] whatever. doesn't matter [31:28] what we talk about. We want all [31:31] Americans to know and understand and [31:33] digest and repeat, right? [31:36] And to doublech checkck us and to [31:40] do their own research if they choose to. [31:42] But the point is to get the message out [31:45] to try and nurture our country, save our [31:48] country at this point, and try to get [31:51] our fellow citizens to really see what [31:53] the hell's going on. [31:56] And this is very very important to all [31:58] of us. [32:00] That's why I say I'm blessed to have you [32:02] out there. [32:03] This is really I think in many ways the [32:05] biggest classroom or seminar or whatever [32:08] you want to call it. But we try to [32:12] to do this the right way. I don't hide [32:14] my personality. There's good days and [32:16] bad days. There's days where I'm giddy [32:18] and days when I'm not. [32:20] But so what? That's the nature of all of [32:23] us, right? [32:25] You ought to hear Mr. Producer. [32:27] Actually, Mr. Producer is the most [32:29] level-headed person I know other than my [32:31] wife. [32:33] See that, Rich? When we come back, [32:37] what is it about [32:40] banning three so-called news outlets [32:42] from the press room, the White House, [32:46] that violates freedom of the press? [32:49] You can't let them all in. There's not [32:51] enough room for that. There has to be [32:53] certain standards. Well, what are the [32:55] standards? And who gets to decide them? [32:57] A federal judge or the president of the [32:59] United States? [33:03] And if the press outlet is still [33:05] reporting, [33:07] can still chase the president at [33:08] different events, [33:11] how is it a violation of freedom of the [33:15] press, whether you agree with what's [33:17] done or not? The question is the [33:20] Constitution. and we'll get to that in a [33:21] moment. [33:24] >> This segment of the podcast is [33:26] exclusively sponsored by Pure Talk. Pure [33:29] Talk offers great coverage and can save [33:31] your family money on your wireless bill [33:33] every single month. Go to puretalk.com [33:36] to find the plan that's right for you. [33:38] Thank you again for listening and thank [33:40] you so much for this sponsorship. Pure [33:42] Talk is here. He's here [33:47] now. Broadcasting from the underground [33:49] command post. Deep in the boughels of a [33:52] hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick [33:54] and steel of a nondistrict building, [33:57] we've once again made contact with our [33:59] leader, Mark Leven. [34:04] Hello America, Mark Levin here. Our [34:07] number 877381 [34:09] 3811877381 [34:14] 3811. [34:19] United States District Court for the [34:21] District of Columbia. One of the things [34:22] I regret the Republicans haven't done [34:26] is uh to change the makeup of the DC [34:30] lower courts and circuit court and to [34:33] move a lot of these these judges. First, [34:36] we'll remove several of them. You don't [34:37] have to do it through impeachment. just [34:38] eliminate their courthouse and eliminate [34:41] their jurisdiction [34:44] and create [34:46] some of these judgeships and some of [34:47] these courouses outside of the [34:50] Washington DC metropolitan area [34:54] because it has a poisonous effect on [34:56] their brains. [34:59] And that's the case with Judge Kelly, a [35:02] Trump appointee 2017. [35:05] I don't know who recommended him. I [35:07] don't know how he got there. I'd never [35:09] heard of him before, but so be it. Cable [35:12] News Network, CNN [35:15] versus Donald J. Trump. [35:18] It's only eight pages. [35:21] On the afternoon of September 18, 2026, [35:24] President Trump announced in a social [35:26] media post that effective immediately [35:28] was banning the news organizations CNN, [35:31] MS Now, and Politico from the White [35:34] House. And those news organizations [35:36] alleged that over the weekend their [35:38] reporters were denied access to the [35:40] White House and had their hard pass [35:42] press credentials deactivated. [35:45] Plaintiffs the three news organizations [35:47] and three individual reporters sue the [35:49] president and several White House [35:51] officials and move for a temporary [35:52] restraining order at TTRO asking the [35:55] court to order the immediate [35:56] reinstatement of their hard passes [35:57] pending further proceedings. The court's [36:00] resolution of their motion is dictated [36:02] by the application of well-known DC [36:05] circuit precedent that this court must [36:07] faithfully apply and for that reason [36:10] explained below the court will grant the [36:11] motion. This will be good to obtain a [36:15] temporary restraining order. Pliff must [36:17] show that he's likely to succeed on the [36:19] merits, that he's likely to suffer [36:20] irreparable harm in the absence of [36:22] preliminary relief, [36:24] and that the balance of equities tips in [36:27] his favor, and that an injunction is in [36:29] the public interest. [36:32] This is a high bar, but plaintiffs have [36:34] met it. He says, [36:37] "First, plaintiffs have shown a [36:38] likelihood of success, at least on their [36:40] fifth amendment procedural due process [36:43] claim." Okay, that's the giveaway. I'll [36:46] get to that in a minute. The merits of [36:48] this claim are assessed in two steps. [36:50] The first asks whether there exists a [36:53] liberty or property interest which has [36:55] been interfered with by the state. The [36:58] second examines whether the procedures [37:00] attended upon the deprivation were [37:02] constitutionally sufficient. Plaintiffs [37:05] have shown that they are likely to [37:06] succeed at both steps. So they have a [37:10] property interest [37:12] in their White House passes. They don't [37:14] have a property interest. That property [37:16] belongs to the White House, belongs to [37:18] the government. They have no property [37:21] interest. [37:25] Do I have a property interest? If I have [37:28] a pass to Fox News and in New York City [37:32] and they decide they don't want me [37:33] anymore and I say, "Wait a minute. Wait, [37:35] wait, wait. [37:37] I have a property interest in this past, [37:39] Mr. and I have every right to come into [37:41] the building. [37:46] As for the first, the DC circuit held [37:48] and they mentioned the case that the [37:51] interest of a bonafide or Washington [37:53] correspondent in obtaining a White House [37:55] press pass undoubtedly qualifies as a [37:58] liberty interest which may not be denied [38:01] without due process of law under the [38:03] fifth amendment. A liberty interest. [38:06] That's even more bizarre. So the pass, [38:09] the press pass is a liberty interest, [38:16] a liberty interest in a press pass to [38:20] get into the White House. I've never [38:23] heard anything so stupid. And I don't [38:25] care if the DC circuit said that. [38:27] Stupid. [38:30] And if there were any doubt about what [38:33] Cheryl meant, the DC circuit more [38:35] recently reaffirmed this conclusion in [38:37] KM versus Trump, holding that a [38:40] dulyisssued hard pass may not be [38:42] suspended without due process. Due [38:44] process. So listen to this. Just you, [38:48] Mr. and Mrs. America. The court [38:51] determines that it is a liberty right. I [38:55] don't even know what that means, but [38:56] it's a liberty right for the reporter [38:59] and the news organization to to be [39:01] issued and to have a pass from the White [39:05] House and that in order to remove it, [39:09] you have to comply with the fifth [39:11] amendment due process clause. Do you [39:12] believe that, Rich? [39:15] That's crazy. [39:20] Indeed, the Supreme Court he writes has [39:22] described the root requirement of the [39:24] due process clause as being that an [39:26] individual be given an opportunity for a [39:29] hearing before he's deprived of any [39:31] significant property interest. So before [39:34] a press group or reporter is told to [39:38] turn in their press pass, number one, [39:40] it's now a liberty interest and number [39:42] two, a fifth amendment federal due [39:45] process has to take place. [39:50] And the reporter must receive fair [39:52] notice not only of the conduct that [39:54] would subject him to punishment but also [39:57] the magnitude of the sanction that the [39:59] White House might impose. [40:01] This is all makeup by the circuit which [40:05] is heavily to the left Democrat [40:08] appointees. This is all makeup. This is [40:11] all BS. [40:15] Defendants do not dispute that [40:17] plaintiffs did not receive notice in an [40:19] opportunity to be heard before their [40:21] hard passes were revoked. And as in [40:24] Karem, the record is bereft of any [40:27] relevant formally articulated standards [40:30] in place before any of the conduct for [40:32] which defendants revoke their hard [40:34] passes. So now it's a liberty right, [40:39] federal due process. You must get [40:42] notice. You must have a right to be [40:44] heard, I guess, by the court. [40:47] And [40:49] the charges or the the bases for [40:52] removing the hard pass must be formally [40:55] articulated. What standards did we [40:58] violate? [41:01] This is crazy. Crazy. [41:06] One standard defendants appear to offer [41:08] reflected in letters they sent to [41:10] plaintiffs on September 22 identifying [41:12] their objectional reporting is so vague [41:14] it hardly does the trick. Your [41:17] organization has exhibited behavior in [41:19] violation of the standards of [41:20] professionalism at decorum expected of [41:23] those given access to the White House [41:24] complex. the White House said. Moreover, [41:26] defendants renewed plaintiffs Betsy [41:28] Klein's hard pass several months after [41:30] she published some of the identified [41:32] reporting, undercutting any argument [41:34] that she or employer, for example, had [41:36] the requisite notice that the conducted [41:39] issue violated a relevant standard. How [41:41] about how about just say, you know what, [41:44] you're out of here. That's all the [41:46] Constitution [41:49] The Constitution doesn't even deal with [41:51] this. [41:53] your right to access. Look at what [41:55] they've created here. They've created a [41:58] liberty right out of thin air. They've [42:00] created a due process right out of thin [42:02] air. They've required that standards be [42:05] articulated out of thin air. They've [42:07] required the right to notice out of thin [42:09] air. They've created the right to [42:11] somebody essentially to challenge it in [42:13] court out of thin air. Look at this. [42:18] None of defendants, that's the White [42:20] House arguments, convince the court that [42:22] plaintiffs are likely, excuse me, are [42:25] not likely to succeed on their due [42:27] process claim. Defendants say that [42:30] Cheryl and Kim were wrongly decided and [42:32] they are right. [42:34] Maybe, but this court is bound by DC [42:36] circuit president. Full stop. [42:40] You're bound by precedent, but you can [42:42] lay out the reasons why you're [42:43] concerned. [42:46] Defendants also point to the letters [42:48] referenced above, which they assert [42:50] afford plaintiffs post deprivation [42:53] notice of the revocations and an [42:56] opportunity to be heard. Post [42:59] deprivation notice [43:03] and defendants site cases that suggest [43:06] such a post-deprivation process suffices [43:09] in extraordinary circumstances. [43:12] These are such circumstances, defendants [43:15] argue, because plaintiffs have [43:16] endangered national security through [43:18] their reporting. Okay. But their [43:21] circumstances here are not so [43:22] extraordinary as to permit deviation [43:24] from the essential principle of due [43:26] process that a deprivation of liberty be [43:29] preceded by notice and opportunity for [43:31] hearing. [43:34] The case, the relevant case the judge [43:36] cites holds that post-deprivation due [43:38] process may suffice in unusual [43:41] situations such as when providing notice [43:44] before blocking it. It goes on and on. [43:48] Plaintiffs have shown that they are [43:49] likely to suffer irreparable harm absent [43:51] a temperate restraining order. The DC [43:54] circuit has long been established that [43:56] the loss of constitutional freedoms for [43:59] even a minimal period of time [44:01] unquestionably continues irreparable [44:03] injury. And what is the constitutional [44:06] freedom? What is it? [44:09] Now, the lower court could have delved [44:11] into that. What's the constitutional [44:13] freedom? Access to the White House. No, [44:16] I said what is the constitutional [44:19] freedom? [44:22] the news organization isn't being shut [44:24] down. [44:28] Thus, because plaintiffs [44:30] have shown the the news groups a [44:33] likelihood of success on at least one of [44:35] their constitutional claims, they've [44:37] also met the irreparable harm [44:39] requirement. [44:41] And what is the irreparable harm? The [44:44] liberty right. Their liberty right. [44:50] See, I would ask Judge Kelly, [44:53] let's say the Ku Klux Clan puts out a [44:56] very popular newsletter. Or better yet, [44:59] let's say Tucker Carlson, [45:02] the Qatari [45:04] in effect [45:06] anti-American Jewhating podcaster, [45:11] decides that [45:13] on the good days, you know, years ago [45:15] when it was just relatively normal, but [45:18] even then kind of freakish, but we'll [45:19] say relatively normal, that he got a [45:21] press pass [45:23] and the White House says, you know, [45:25] we're going to take your press pass [45:26] away. you're a jackass and you're a [45:28] mental case [45:30] and they take his pass away. Does he [45:33] have a liberty right? According to the [45:35] judge, he does. [45:37] He does. He has a liberty right in his [45:40] pass. [45:42] He has a liberty right in his pass. [45:48] This is just crazy. [45:51] plaintiffs in the public have an abiding [45:53] interest in maintaining the status quo [45:55] ante given the importance of the free [45:57] press which stands as one of the great [45:59] interpreters between the government and [46:00] the people. Okay, but it just so happens [46:04] that these three corporations [46:06] are not really interpreters between the [46:08] government and the people. They're [46:09] propagandists and that's the point [46:11] judge. [46:14] That's the point. And there's really no [46:16] denying that Politico is a radical left [46:20] Democratpromoting website. The [46:23] constipated news network is beyond the [46:25] pale. And then of course MS Now changed [46:29] its name to try and somehow conceal its [46:33] radicalism. [46:35] So we get down to it, don't we? What is [46:36] a news organization, judge? What is a [46:39] news organization? Can you tell us? [46:42] He doesn't go there. [46:45] And at some point somebody needs to [46:47] don't they judge [46:49] because that's the crux of the matter. [46:52] Not that they got to pass. [46:55] Not that it's a liberty right which is [46:57] absurd [46:58] and all the other attendant processes. [47:04] On the other side defendants argue that [47:05] revoking Plato's hard passes and [47:07] excluding them from the White House [47:08] serves an important national security [47:10] purpose. citing defendants interest in [47:13] protecting classified and sensitive [47:14] national security information. No doubt [47:17] protection in the national security is [47:19] awaiting interest on the executive [47:20] branch and tr and true uh courts of [47:24] limited competence in the area of [47:26] national security and so review of the [47:28] executive's related factual [47:29] determination should be highly [47:31] differential. Still on this record [47:34] defendants offer little to back up their [47:36] asserted national security interest to [47:38] justify revocation. See, ladies and [47:40] gentlemen, the courts are really [47:42] interfering [47:44] with what is an executive branch right [47:47] and function to make a determination [47:49] here. They're not violating the First [47:51] Amendment. The press is still free. [47:54] Nobody's shutting down Politico. [47:56] Nobody's really interfering with their [47:57] reporting. They can still go to events [47:59] where the president is and so forth and [48:01] so on. They just don't have access to [48:04] the White House. In fact, everybody [48:06] doesn't have access to the White House. [48:08] And what they seem to be saying is, [48:10] well, once you get a hard pass, it's [48:12] virtually impossible to take it away. [48:14] Doesn't it sound like that? You have a [48:16] liberty right under the First Amendment, [48:18] and you got to meet these 28,000 [48:21] processes in order to take it away. [48:25] Wow. [48:27] That ensures a responsible press. And by [48:30] responsible, I mean a real press, a news [48:31] organization. [48:36] For these reasons, plaintiffs have [48:38] satisfied the four-part winter factors [48:40] shown they are entitled to a temporary [48:42] restraining order. Two final points. [48:45] First, the court declines to stay this [48:46] temporary restraining order uh entry or [48:49] effective date is defendant's request. [48:52] Doing so runs against the purpose of [48:54] such an order, which is to immediately [48:57] but temporarily preserve the last [48:59] uncontested status quo while the [49:01] litigation proceeds. And in any event, [49:04] temporary restraining orders are [49:05] generally unappealable. [49:07] This temporary restraining order shall [49:09] remain in effect for 14 days, and the [49:12] court will set a schedule for expedited [49:15] briefing on a motion for a preliminary [49:17] injunction during that time. The court [49:19] will then be able to consider such a [49:21] motion with additional time and on a [49:23] fuller record. Well, I sure as hell hope [49:25] so, judge. You are you going to get to [49:27] the issue of what is a news organization [49:29] and what is a reporter? [49:31] And once they receive a pass, it's [49:34] virtually impossible to take it back. [49:39] Second, federal. Okay, you don't need to [49:41] know all that. [49:43] For all these reasons, it's ordered and [49:45] he orders it. Really shoddy, really [49:49] terrible. He acts like he's a [49:50] bureaucrat. Well, this is what the DC [49:52] circuit says. I agree with it and [49:55] nothing else I can do. Full stop. And [49:57] besides, look at the factual record [49:58] here. It underscores that and so forth. [50:01] and so on. If you're a really smart, [50:05] good constitutionalist, [50:09] you would be very, very troubled [50:13] by what this judge just did. [50:16] And if you were a judge who was a really [50:19] smart and true constitutionalist, [50:22] this would not be your ruling. [50:26] As you can see, the Constitution [50:30] protects none of this. [50:32] This is manufactured the liberty right. [50:36] At least he didn't go to the property [50:38] right, a liberty right, whatever that [50:40] means. [50:42] And of course, these news organizations, [50:44] so-called, are not prevented from [50:46] reporting news at all. They just can't [50:49] come into the president's house. I'll be [50:52] right back. Mark love. [51:01] >> You know folks, I've been telling you [51:02] for a long time that Pure Talk is the [51:04] best wireless company out there. I say [51:06] that because I actually use Pure Talk. I [51:09] make calls. I send texts. I watch [51:11] videos. I use the unlimited data. So, I [51:13] can tell you firsthand that coverage is [51:15] phenomenal. But you don't have to take [51:16] my word for it. In a recent industry [51:18] survey of over 120,000 wireless [51:22] customers, Pure Talk was the only [51:24] wireless company in the country to get [51:26] five out of five stars in every [51:28] category, coverage, support, value, and [51:30] data. Stop overpaying for subpar [51:32] service, folks. Join Pure Talk. Join me. [51:35] Just go to puretalk.com/lavven [51:38] puretalk.comvin [51:41] and you'll save 50% off your first [51:43] month. Make the switch right now. 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[52:44] Well, there you go. Secretary of War, [52:46] Pete Hgsith, Ambassador Jameson Greer, [52:49] US trade rep. Marlo Greer, spouse of [52:52] Ambassador Greer. Chaiki, CPC, political [52:56] bureau standing committee member, chief [52:57] of staff to President Xi Wangi, CPC. Hi, [53:03] CPC. Uh, Jang Shay, chairman of the [53:07] National Development and Reform [53:08] Commission. [53:10] Um, [53:12] well, we got a lot of these Chinese [53:13] guys. Ms. Ivanka Trump. [53:16] Uh, we have Eric Trump, Lara Trump, [53:19] Tiffany Trump, Michael Bulau, [53:23] Victor Nay, Arabella Kushner. More when [53:26] we return. [53:28] You know folks, I've been telling you [53:30] for a long time that Pure Talk is the [53:32] best wireless company out there. I say [53:34] that because I actually use Pure Talk. I [53:36] make calls, I send texts, I watch [53:38] videos, I use the unlimited data. So, I [53:41] can tell you firsthand that coverage is [53:42] phenomenal. 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[54:47] >> Oh yes indeed. Let's continue with the [54:50] guests. I'm going to try and skip over [54:51] the communist Chinese guests if I can [54:54] figure out who they are here. Yes, [54:56] that's a Kami Kami Kami [55:01] Zang Shaya, chairman of the National [55:04] Development and Reform Commission. [55:07] Let's see here. Stick with me. We have [55:09] Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, Lara Trump, [55:11] Tiffany Trump, Michael Buloo, [55:15] Victor Navvice, [55:18] uh, Ms. Arabella Kushner, we have Jensen [55:21] Wang, the Nvidia CEO and his wife, Mark [55:26] Zuckerberg, a new pal at MA, he's the [55:28] CEO. [55:30] Uh, let's see, we have Dr. Lisa Sue, [55:32] Advanced Micro Devices CEO, [55:36] and her spouse, Daniel. We have Tim [55:39] Cook, chairman of the board of Apple. He [55:40] gets to go to all these things. We have [55:42] John FW Rogers. I know who this is. [55:45] Goldman Sachs, executive VP and [55:47] secretary to the board. This guy was a [55:50] big right-hand guy to James Baker and [55:52] Dick Darman [55:55] and Bush. [55:57] So, he's a big Bushy, but there he is. I [56:00] guess because of his Goldman Sachs link. [56:02] We have Lynn Martin, president of the [56:05] New York Stock Exchange. We have Linda [56:08] Mills, president of New York University [56:11] NYU. Okay. We have Eric Juan, the CEO of [56:16] Zoom. [56:18] We have uh let's see here. I'm going to [56:21] get past the commies. [56:24] We a lot of commies here. [56:28] Hold on to your top secrets, folks. [56:29] Let's see here. [56:31] I'm moving, but there's going past the [56:34] commies. The commamies. Then we had [56:36] Kelly Ortberg, Boeing CEO. Larry Frink, [56:41] CEO of Black Rockck. He seems to show up [56:43] everywhere. Steven Schwarzman, [56:45] Blackstone, CEO. Sam Alman, Open AI CEO. [56:50] We have Greg Brockman, Open AI president [56:53] and co-founder and his wife Anna. We [56:57] have Dr. Miriam Add. We have Surgery [57:01] Brin, Google AI Alphabet co-founder. We [57:05] have Hold on now. I got to scroll. This [57:07] is a long list. Wait until they get that [57:10] new uh [57:12] that new ballroom, Mr. Producer. [57:16] Maybe then I'll get invited. [57:19] But no, I'll probably be getting my hot [57:21] dog and soda at Costco. You know, [57:24] we have, stick with me, folks. I'm not [57:26] done. We have Jim Talslet, Lheed Martin, [57:30] chairman, president, and CEO. Wow. [57:33] We have Sundar Pachche, CEO of Google. [57:38] We have Larry Culp, GE, Aerospace CEO. [57:42] We have Sanjay Metaraltra, [57:46] Micron CEO. We have Cristiano Arnon, [57:52] Qualcomm CEO. We have Jeff Bezos, [57:56] chairman of Amazon, and his wife. We [58:00] have Jeff Yas, Tik Tok. Jamie Diamond, [58:04] JP Morgan, CEO, Michael Dell, Dell CEO. [58:09] We've got Mary Barrett, GM CEO. We've [58:13] got David Solomon, CEO of Goldman Sachs. [58:17] We've got Jane Fraser, City CEO. We've [58:21] got Elon Musk. We know him. We've got [58:24] Darren Woods, Exon Mobile CEO. We have [58:27] Chief Justice John Roberts. [58:31] That's crazy. Jane Sullivan Roberts, [58:35] his wife. We have Justice Amy Coney [58:38] Barrett. [58:40] That's crazy. And her husband Jesse [58:42] Barrett. We have Justice Brett Kavanagh. [58:45] That doesn't bother me. He's pretty [58:46] good. And his wife. We have Speaker Mike [58:49] Johnson and his wife. We have Brett [58:51] Bear. Hold on. Brett Bearer. Fox News. [58:53] Brett Bearer gets into all this stuff. [58:55] You know that, Mr. producer [58:59] Brett Bearer and his wife Laura Ingram. [59:03] She's at the dinner. We have [59:07] Representative Richard McCormack. [59:09] Jesse Waters, he's at the dinner and his [59:12] spouse. [59:14] Let's see here. David Ellison, Paramont [59:18] Sky Dance CEO. [59:22] Kevin Walsh, chairman of the Federal [59:24] Reserve. Jane Louder, spouse to Kevin [59:27] Walsh. [59:29] Secretary Howard Lutnik, Commerce [59:31] Department, and his wife. CIA Director [59:34] Ratcliffe. Now, that's pretty funny. The [59:36] SI director at the Communist Chinese [59:39] dinner. I'm sorry. I find that funny. [59:41] Steve Whit. [59:44] I'm surprised. No, not in the least. Uh, [59:46] let's see. We have Steve Miller and his [59:50] wife Katie. [59:53] We have Dan Scavenino, great guy, and [59:55] his wife Aaron. She's lovely, too. We [59:58] have the attorney general, Todd Blanch, [60:00] and his wife. [60:02] We have Meredith Oor of the Oor Group. [60:06] Can I start like the Levvin group, Mr. [60:07] Producer? [60:10] A group is two or more, right? So, it' [60:12] be my wife and me. The Levvin group. Uh, [60:16] we have Secretary of Energy, Wright. We [60:20] have HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy. We [60:24] have Education Secretary McMahon. We've [60:27] got Interior Secretary Bergam and his [60:29] wife. We've got Transportation Secretary [60:33] Shan Duffy and his wife. Uh Fox News [60:37] Rachel Campost Duffy. [60:40] I know this is going to sound very [60:41] weird, [60:43] but I have to say it. I already told you [60:46] folks yesterday I'm not into state [60:48] dinners. [60:49] I'm just not. [60:52] And I understand. I think I heard the [60:54] president say this was a hot ticket. [60:56] Everybody wanted to go. [60:58] I would never want to go to this dinner, [61:00] Rich. Am I wrong? [61:04] But this guy is a massive killer. [61:08] What he's doing to our country and has [61:09] done to our country and our troops, [61:11] there's just no way I'd want to do it. [61:13] I'm just saying, folks, that's just [61:15] Mark. Then we have Russell Voit, [61:19] director of OM. We have Lee Zeldon of [61:22] the EPA. We have acting secretary [61:26] Sondering, Secretary Acting of Labor. We [61:30] have uh Altameter CEO Brad Gerston. We [61:35] have [61:38] I started this. I probably need to [61:40] finish it. [61:41] We have Albert Berea, Fizer, CEO, David [61:47] Saxs, co-chair, President's Council of [61:49] Adviserss on Science and Technology. [61:52] We have the SBA administrator, Kelly [61:55] Laughler. We have her husband. [61:59] Uh we have Katie Simpson and her fiance. [62:03] I don't know who it is. I'm just saying. [62:05] Representative Jason Smith, we know he's [62:07] chairman of the arms of the uh excuse [62:09] me, the uh one of the major finance [62:11] committees. General Dan Kaine, who's [62:14] running our war. He's at dinner with the [62:16] comm. [62:18] Hold on. Give me a second here. Hold on [62:21] a second. [62:25] So, we have the head of the the joint [62:27] chiefs, the general. He's at the dinner. [62:31] Uh, [62:33] and let's see, bear with me. We have [62:36] Senator Steve Danes. Very nice guy. By [62:38] the way, I don't know these people while [62:40] I bump into them. We have Director Jay [62:43] Clayton, director of the office and [62:44] director of national intelligence. We [62:46] have enough of our spy chiefs here. [62:49] We have Bernard Arnot, LVMH CEO and his [62:54] wife. We have Ryan McCannernney, Visa [62:58] CEO. [63:00] We have Michael Maybach Mach. That's the [63:04] Yiddish Mastercard CEO. [63:07] And we have a few other spouses. What do [63:12] you think, Mr. Medusa? [63:14] It's a lot of people. [63:17] And I wasn't invited. [63:21] Why would it be, do you think? [63:24] I have this loving personality. [63:28] Just because I [63:30] am no fan of communist China and Xi and [63:35] denounce them and condemn them [63:36] regularly. [63:38] You see, ladies and gentlemen, when you [63:40] hear me speak on radio or TV or anywhere [63:42] else, [63:46] I don't know all these people. If I know [63:49] any, I bump into them. [63:51] I just call him as I see him. I'll be [63:56] right back. [63:56] >> Mark love. 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[64:54] Take it from me or from over 120,000 [64:58] wireless customers. Again, that's [65:00] puretalk.com/lovin. [65:02] puretalk.com/levin. [65:05] Save 50% off your first month. [65:07] puretalk.com/lavvin. [65:10] And welcome to Pure Talk. [65:15] Let me ask you, at a state dinner for [65:17] the president of China, the commi, [65:20] do they have Chinese food? What do you [65:22] think they're serving? [65:25] I have friends in this country who are [65:28] Chinese Americans who tell me the [65:30] Chinese food is different in America [65:33] than it is in Hong Kong or even mainland [65:37] China. [65:40] So, uh, I don't know. I don't know what [65:44] you eat. I really don't. [65:47] But seems to me, uh, look, I'm allergic [65:49] to milk. I'm lactose intolerance. As [65:51] long as that that's not not the problem [65:53] or I can take my my pills, my lactose [65:56] free pills that I'll be fine. But [66:00] you think you get a diet coke at one of [66:02] these dinners or is it all red wine? How [66:05] would you know? You don't know and I [66:06] don't know. Why am I asking you? [66:09] That's true. He loves Diet Coke. His [66:12] meat well done with ketchup. Just like [66:14] me. Just like me. But they'd probably [66:18] have me sit way down at the end. You sit [66:20] at the end. Mark. I think I've commented [66:23] on this show. [66:25] There are certain countries I could [66:26] never go to because I don't think I'd [66:27] ever be able to return. Like China. [66:30] Haven't I told you that, Rich? And the [66:32] in the Mr. and Mrs. America. I go to [66:35] China. They'll never let me out. [66:38] I go to Russia, you know, uh, traitor [66:42] Katarlson, you know, oh, look at that. [66:45] There's our friend. [66:48] Yeah. Yeah. Me, [66:50] it'll be, get him. Get him. Get him. You [66:52] know, [66:54] communist China, I'd be disappeared. [66:55] There's nothing they could trade to get [66:57] me back here. Nothing. They wouldn't [66:59] allow it. [67:01] They wouldn't allow it. But I look at [67:03] this guy Xi, what he's done to Hong [67:06] Kong, what he's done to the Weaguers, [67:07] all these Muslims, two million of them, [67:09] what he's done to Christians and [67:10] Tibetans, [67:14] the labor camps, the force [67:16] sterilizations, the killings. [67:19] I look at what he's done [67:22] to our troops. I look at what he's [67:24] trying to do to Taiwan. I look at all [67:26] the money we have to spend in order to [67:29] pre protect ourselves from a potential [67:33] military, [67:34] you know, operation from them. [67:38] I look at all this and I sit down and [67:40] eat with this guy. I do understand the [67:42] president has to deal with him. Please [67:43] don't get me wrong, but I I just I [67:49] a state dinner. I don't even care who [67:50] the president is. Reagan, what? No, [67:52] that's okay. [67:54] But a lot of these people do business in [67:56] communist China. Financial guys, you [67:59] know, uh, car guys, computer guys, [68:04] AI guys, a lot of them do business. [68:08] And I believe and I think and I thought [68:10] that we're supposed to try and wind some [68:12] of that down. Just me. [68:16] Just me. [68:18] But I don't even want to shake the guy's [68:20] hand. [68:22] Got blood on his hand. That's like the [68:24] president of Iran. I don't want to deal [68:25] with that guy. Shake his hand. I don't [68:27] want to shake anybody's hand. No, none [68:29] of theirs. [68:32] It's an amazing thing. [68:34] These truly awful mass murdering [68:37] dictators. [68:41] They sit down with the press. They sit [68:43] down at dinner. They do these. Now [68:44] Netanyahu, oh no, we can't do anything [68:46] with him. Oh my god, he's the worst of [68:50] the worst. [68:52] See what I mean? How ridiculous this is? [68:57] >> Yeah. I'll be right back. [69:05] He's here. [69:07] Now broadcasting them from the [69:09] underground command post. Deep in the [69:12] boughels of a hidden bunker. Somewhere [69:14] under the brick and steel of a [69:15] nondescript building. We've once again [69:18] made contact with our leader. [69:21] Mark. [69:25] >> Hello America. Mark Levin here. Our [69:27] number 877381 [69:30] 3811. [69:32] 877381 [69:35] 3811. [69:37] Susan Collins takes the lead in the [69:39] Senate race [69:41] in Maine. [69:43] According to Just the News here, the [69:45] main Republican has a long history of [69:46] outperforming the polls. They write. Of [69:48] course, we know that even in cycles that [69:51] are tough for Republicans and more [69:53] generally. [69:55] Overall, Collins took 49% support in the [69:58] latest New York Times Sienna College [69:59] survey compared to Democratic candidate [70:01] Troy Jackson's 46%. [70:05] While the 5% margin of error means the [70:07] race is still statistical tied marks the [70:10] latest survey to show Collins gaining [70:12] ground. On average, Jackson still holds [70:15] a onepoint lead. According to Real Clear [70:18] Politics, the race is expected to be [70:20] competitive. [70:22] Republican loss in the state would [70:24] likely doom party efforts to hold the [70:26] Senate, which is why I've endorsed her [70:28] and I [70:30] strongly hope that she and some of the [70:33] others win. And we're trying to get some [70:36] of these folks on the program as well. [70:39] We'll see what happens. [70:41] Let's see here. Um, [70:45] we have a Latino power. Representative [70:47] Dileia Ramirez wants to abolish DHS, [70:51] create community safety immigration [70:53] agency. These people are serious. [70:56] You know, if we lose the House andor the [70:58] Senate, [71:00] I mean, this is going to be ugly. You [71:02] won't recognize your country again. [71:08] The elected daughter of two Guatemalan [71:10] illegal immigrants [71:12] is touting Latino power as she demands [71:15] that 150 billion in funding for US [71:19] Customs and Border Protection and [71:21] Immigration and Customs Enforcement be [71:23] redirected to fund illegal migrants. [71:26] See, she really represents illegal [71:28] aliens. That's where her head is. We're [71:31] going to completely defund and strip [71:33] authority from ICE and CPB, that's [71:36] customs, which keep lists of you, she [71:39] said. She declared in Spanish, of [71:42] course. She was joined by her [71:44] pro-immigrant allies, including illegal [71:46] immigrants, Islamic advocates, [71:49] Asian advocates, and of course, lesbian [71:51] advocates. [71:54] She added in Spanish. Instead, we're [71:56] going How do you have the Islamic [71:57] advocates standing with the lesbian [71:59] advocates? Mr. It is. I'm just curious [72:01] how that works. [72:04] Instead, we're going to create a [72:06] Department of Community Safety. Oh, so [72:08] sweet. Where immigration will no longer [72:10] be handled by the DHS department, which [72:13] they intend to abolish. [72:16] Democrats advocacy for illegal migrants [72:18] was slammed by mainstream GOP [72:20] legislators. But still, if they're in a [72:23] majority, things are going to change. [72:25] And for the worse, [72:28] for the worse. [72:30] So she's not a representative that gives [72:32] a damn about America. She could care [72:36] less. [72:38] Care less. [72:41] Now this is very interesting. I thought [72:42] at the New York Post, [72:45] you know this clown Sunonny Hust for the [72:48] View. [72:49] They write here that Sunonny Hon's claim [72:52] that she was the lone hold out in the [72:53] New York City cannibalism trial back in [72:56] I think it was 1991 [72:58] was shot down by sources reports from [73:01] the time. [73:03] Can you imagine America [73:06] taking credit quote unquote for being [73:09] the 11 to1 the one juror who voted [73:12] against convicting [73:15] a guy who not only murdered what then [73:20] ate body parts of the person he murdered [73:26] and then you lied about it that it [73:28] wasn't really you as the one [73:31] according to this the view co-host Hust [73:34] sensationally claimed on air that she [73:35] was the lone hold out juror who forced a [73:38] notorious New York City cannibal killer [73:40] to be found not guilty by reason of [73:42] insanity, but multiple sources from the [73:44] time directly refuted a story. The Post [73:46] can reveal [73:49] several jurors questioned afterwards [73:51] said one hold out juror was principally [73:53] responsible for preventing them from [73:55] returning a guilty verdict. Hston read [73:57] aloud from a New York Times article from [73:59] the 1991 trial on Tuesday. That was me, [74:02] she asserted. [74:05] She's 57 and she told the tale of being [74:07] the lone jury hold out [74:10] these commercials. [74:13] Uh, let's see. In the Butcher of Tomkins [74:16] Square Park case, as she discussed the [74:18] parallels between that case and Lindsay [74:20] Clancy's own insanity defense. But 35 [74:24] years ago, jurors told the Post, News [74:26] Day, the Daily News, oh, and the AP that [74:29] the actual hold out was an unemployed [74:31] man who wanted to keep the trial going [74:34] so he could continue getting paid by the [74:36] court for his civic duty. A law [74:38] enforcement source from the time also [74:41] told the Post this week that the hold [74:43] out was a man. Is it possible Sunonny [74:45] Hston was a man at one point, Mr. Medus? [74:48] Is that possible that she was like the [74:50] first transy or is it I should [74:53] say you don't know. [74:56] >> Yes. Let's hear what she had to say. Go [74:58] right ahead. [74:59] >> I feel so strongly about this hold out [75:01] jurors cuz I was a hold out juror in a [75:03] case in the Daniel Rackowitz case. I [75:05] don't know if people remember it. The [75:06] butcher of Tomkins Square Park. It was [75:08] in 19. [75:08] >> The guy who ate the victims. [75:10] >> Yes. He was on that jury. You're going [75:12] to need to explain more. [75:13] >> Yes, I was. And when I never heard this [75:16] story before, it was before I went to [75:17] law school. [75:18] >> I would have never and when I brought it [75:20] up in the hot when I brought it up at [75:22] the Hot Topics meeting, I don't think [75:24] everyone believed me. And then my [75:25] producer looked it up and I'm in the New [75:27] York Times. And apparently several [75:29] jurors questioned afterwards said one [75:32] hold out juror was principally [75:34] responsible [75:35] preventing them from returning a guilty [75:38] verdict. That was me. And it was because [75:41] I saw clearly, [75:42] >> you know, look how happy she is. [75:44] Somebody lost a daughter [75:47] and this woman's a buffoon. And now [75:50] according to the New York Post story, it [75:53] wasn't her. [75:56] Quote, "He was unemployed and liked the [75:58] $15 a day and the three fair free [76:00] meals." Juror Valerie Holmes told News [76:03] Day in the aftermath of the verdict. [76:06] They got like five newspapers who were [76:08] saying this. He liked that we were [76:12] arguing on and on. Holmes reiterated the [76:15] claim to the Post and the Daily News, [76:18] describing the hold out as being very [76:20] determined and a manipulative man [76:23] determined to get his way. From day one, [76:26] this particular person was determined [76:28] that the jury was going to find Rakawitz [76:32] not guilty by reason of mental disease. [76:35] jury four women. Louise Markle told the [76:38] AP at the time. [76:41] Meanwhile, Sunny Hston was quoted as a [76:44] juror on the case in multiple news clips [76:46] at the time, but she did not identify [76:48] herself as the hold out, nor did any of [76:51] the fellow jurors who talked to the [76:52] press after the trial. We have a uh [76:58] an issue here, Mr. Medusa. [77:02] Her statement to News Day from the time [77:04] even seemed to contradict her story. [77:07] Quote, "We had to compromise, but it is [77:10] obvious to me he butchered the body. He [77:12] literally got away with murder. He [77:14] attempted to commit the perfect crime," [77:16] she told the paper, who quoted the then [77:18] 22-year-old parillegal under a [77:20] government name, [77:22] what is this name? [77:24] Asunian Cummings. [77:27] She told the what's that? [77:30] associ [77:36] intended to kill her, but once he did, [77:38] he dismembered her body in an effort to [77:40] commit the perfect crime. Now, he did [77:42] more than 98 at her. Following Hston's [77:45] claim on the view, a law enforcement [77:47] source familiar with the case also [77:49] confirmed with the New York Post that [77:51] the hold out juror was a man, not a [77:54] woman. We were told that the juror who [77:57] held out was a man. There was no other [77:59] description. [78:00] Well, News Day article from 1991, [78:02] however, [78:04] suggests that there were two holdout [78:06] jurors who pushed the the other 10 to [78:08] find Rakowitz not guilty or risk a hung [78:11] jury. The story did not provide the [78:14] additional details on who the second [78:16] supposed hold out was and only focused [78:19] on the unemployed men. So, she may have [78:21] been one of the holdouts, but she may [78:22] have buckled. She may not have been on [78:24] the jury. She may have been, but may not [78:27] have buckled. And this guy [78:29] was the hold out. [78:32] Asked by the Post, Hston reiterated her [78:34] claim and doubled down on the fact that [78:35] she was the lone hold out juror in the [78:38] infamous case. I was I was the hold out [78:41] jur. Look at them fighting over this. [78:45] This is sick. [78:47] She's sick. [78:49] Sick. I'll be right back. Much love in [79:05] Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. [79:07] Well, we have a first time guest, [79:09] somebody I've [79:11] known about. I've watched him online [79:13] from time to time, Professor Jeffrey [79:15] Lax. He's written a brilliant piece and [79:17] commentary. [79:19] Professor, how are you, sir? [79:22] >> Mark, I really appreciate this. I've not [79:24] seen anyone take more incoming than than [79:27] you over the past couple of years just [79:29] for defending freedom. And if if it [79:31] survives, if it survives, your name [79:34] belongs in the history books. So, thank [79:35] you. [79:36] >> Well, you're a sweetheart. I appreciate [79:37] that. You're doing a pretty good job [79:39] yourself there, professor. Tell us a [79:41] little bit about yourself so the so the [79:42] audience knows. Remember, we're heard [79:44] all over the country. [79:46] >> Yeah. Well, you know, I saw this coming [79:48] 10 years ago, really 11 years ago, on my [79:51] campus at the City University of New [79:52] York, the the largest urban public [79:54] university in the country, actually, the [79:56] the Red Green Alliance, which is the [79:58] Islamist Marxism. I talked about this on [80:01] Fox on Stuart Vanney's show three, four [80:03] years ago. Um, because I work I I'm on [80:06] the ground, Mark, every single day [80:08] working with these lunatics. I look in [80:11] their dead eyes and they've attacked me [80:14] for speaking out. They've attacked me [80:16] really not for speaking out. They [80:17] attacked me originally just for being a [80:19] Jew. [80:21] >> It's amazing. Luckily, you have tenure, [80:23] I hope. Right. So, they can't take you [80:24] out that way. [80:26] >> They tried. They've put me under my [80:28] university has placed me under and you [80:30] should know by the way. [80:31] >> Yeah. [80:31] >> The chief diversity officer at the [80:33] largest univers public university in the [80:35] country is Sally Abadala, the former [80:37] care Minnesota political director. Gosh, [80:40] >> who spearheaded who spearheaded the BDS [80:45] movement at at K Minnesota? Can you [80:47] imagine in a school in in a university [80:50] with 240,000 [80:52] students in the largest Jewish [80:54] population in the country outside of [80:56] Israel, what chance does a Jewish [80:58] student have bringing an anti-semitism [81:01] claim when Sally Abadala, an Islamist, [81:04] is in charge of those investigations? [81:07] It's outrageous. It is outrageous. Now, [81:10] one of the things you've done in this [81:12] commentary piece, which is absolutely [81:14] brilliant, you said, "Hey, look, [81:17] we Jews, you know, we're fighting [81:20] anti-semitism. We're under attack, but [81:23] we don't really know how best to respond [81:26] to this, and there's a tactical way to [81:28] do this." Now, I don't want to steal [81:30] your thunder. Walk us through this. [81:33] Yeah, it's actually for me it was [81:35] complicated because I really wanted to [81:37] work both sides at the same time. And I [81:39] got to be honest, I didn't know if this [81:41] would work out. I wanted the reality of [81:43] who Jewish people really are in everyday [81:46] life to match up exactly with the [81:48] protected classes under American law. [81:51] And otherwise, we wouldn't be speaking [81:52] today if that wasn't true. They do [81:54] align. And and I really I put it into a [81:56] framework of five categories, which I [81:58] call the prize framework. The P is [82:02] practice Judaism. I think that's a very [82:04] simple one that anyone can understand. [82:06] If you are a practicing Jew, we all know [82:08] that practicing your religion is [82:09] protected under state, federal, local [82:13] laws all across the country. You don't [82:14] have to be an Orthodox Jew. If you're a [82:16] conservative or whatever stream you are, [82:18] if you have a genuine religious belief, [82:20] we know that's protected. That's kind of [82:22] easy. Then you have religious Zionism, [82:24] which a lot of people don't know about. [82:26] A lot of people like me, it includes me, [82:28] are religiously Zionist. Meaning I [82:31] believe that Abraham had a conversation [82:33] with God in Shahim, which is today [82:36] scenario, which some people call the [82:38] West Bank today in Nebulus. Okay? I [82:40] believe that conversation. So my beliefs [82:43] are actually religious and that's [82:44] protected under the law and it should be [82:47] protected because it's a genuine belief [82:48] and that's where my uh and and by the [82:51] way in the Bible Old Testament 613 [82:55] commandments 204 of them require Israel. [83:00] So if you are an Orthodox Jew or or a [83:02] conservative Jew or any Jew who has a [83:05] religious connection, it is really truly [83:07] genuinely religious. So that's the R in [83:09] pride. I is the simplest of all. I is [83:12] Israeli nationality. Obviously about 80% [83:15] of Israelis are Jews. So if you're an [83:17] Israeli national, we know they're being [83:19] discriminated, especially in academia [83:20] today. Try to get a any any type of [83:23] publication now um collaborated with [83:26] across the world. It's not happening if [83:27] you're Israeli. So that's the PRI event. [83:30] Z is in ethnicity. Ethnicity. This is [83:33] one that people don't use enough and [83:34] it's so important. It is a shared [83:38] cultural, historical, and and an [83:41] ancestral tie to the land of Israel and [83:44] the people of Israel. If you go back and [83:46] look at that conversation that that [83:48] monstrous anti-semite Tucker Carlson had [83:51] with Ted Cruz a year or year or so ago [83:55] and and he said to Ted Cruz, "Well, why [83:57] do Christians need to support the [83:59] Israeli government?" And I'm sitting [84:01] there, Mark, I am pulling my hair out [84:03] because Ted Cruz was not written. Ted [84:05] Cruz is one of the most brilliant people [84:07] I've ever heard. But he was not prepared [84:09] for that ridiculous statement. No one [84:12] has ever said that Christians should [84:14] support the Israeli government. It's not [84:17] about the government. It's about the [84:18] Jewish people. The commandment in the [84:20] Bible and the ultim which both Jews and [84:23] Christians believe is that God blesses [84:26] Abraham and blesses those who bless [84:28] Abraham's descendants. Has nothing to do [84:30] with a government. So it's about the [84:32] people and land of Israel. So Zion [84:34] ethnicity is just a shared historical, [84:37] cultural, ancestral connection to the [84:40] land and people of Israel. It's not [84:42] political. It's a lie to say it's [84:44] political. And finally, the E category [84:46] and prize. I'm sorry for going on so [84:48] long here. It's the ethnic Jewish [84:50] identity. [84:52] >> So the ethnic Jewish identity is the [84:54] biggest group of all. It encompasses a [84:55] lot of good people like you and me. [84:57] We're both ethnically Jewish. But it [84:59] also encompasses a lot of bad people, [85:01] too. but they're protected also under [85:03] the law. So you can be an anti-Zionist, [85:05] but you may have a grandfather who's [85:07] Jewish or a mother who's Jewish or a [85:09] father, whatever it is, that still makes [85:11] you ethnically Jewish. So you're still [85:12] protected under that fifth category. But [85:15] you have all these five categories. [85:17] You'll notice there's nothing political [85:19] in here. And all these pol all of these [85:22] categories are in my view empirical [85:25] reality about who Jews are in real life. [85:29] And all of these are protected under the [85:31] law by either nationality or by race. [85:35] And if you look at state law in New York [85:37] where I'm where I'm in and I'm I'm [85:39] admitted to the bar in New York, uh New [85:41] York uses the term creed, which case law [85:43] has over overwhelmingly said is [85:45] synonymous with ethnicity. So all these [85:48] categories that I just listed are fully [85:50] protected under the law. And we need to [85:53] plead using this framework because we're [85:55] losing way too many cases across the [85:57] country in motions to dismiss where this [86:00] is avoided. And you're saying, look, it [86:02] could be one of these five. It can be a [86:04] couple of these five. It can be all [86:06] five. Right. [86:08] >> Yeah. You can be in I'm I happen to be [86:10] in four out of the five categories. I'm [86:13] a practicing Jew. I'm religiously [86:15] Zionist. I'm not an Israeli national, [86:18] but I do have Zionist ethnicity and I am [86:20] ethnically Jewish. And I think one of [86:22] the most rewarding moments for me, Mark, [86:24] I go around and I talk about this and I [86:26] give speeches about it. I the one of the [86:29] most rewarding I face evil people every [86:31] day of my life. Most of my interactions [86:32] are difficult, Mark. And I know you know [86:34] this better than anybody, you know, but [86:38] when I give these speeches to a friendly [86:40] group of Jews, a lot of them are [86:42] ethnically Jewish, but they don't [86:45] understand how to describe their [86:46] Jewishness. and they come up to me after [86:49] these events and they thank me and they [86:51] say, "I've been Jewish my whole life and [86:53] I never knew how to explain why. Now I [86:56] know what category I'm in or what [86:58] categories I'm in. You could be in a few [87:00] categories and now I can explain it to [87:02] people and that's really rewarding." And [87:04] it's I know I went on for a long time to [87:05] describe [87:07] read the article [87:09] >> and I want in fact I I want you to hang [87:11] on. I want to take you into another [87:12] segment. Now here's my next question. [87:16] Why would you argue, professor, that [87:18] this is even broader than Jews? That [87:21] Christians should be interested in this, [87:22] too? [87:24] Cuz I think they should. We'll be right [87:26] back. [87:32] Mark the [87:34] thunder on the right. Call in now. [87:37] 8773813811. [87:41] >> We're here. Professor Jeffrey Lax, good [87:43] man. brilliant piece and commentary. I [87:47] think it's quite brilliant. And he's [87:49] laying out the legal case [87:52] um where Jews can use federal law to [87:56] bring cases too, not just others. And so [87:59] my question, professor, was does this [88:02] also matter to Christians? [88:07] >> Absolutely. I mean, Christians choose to [88:09] be Christians. So a lot of Jews are just [88:11] born Jews. They may not be religious. [88:13] They're secular and they're born Jewish [88:15] because they have a Jewish parent. So [88:16] Jews aren't just a religion. But my [88:18] understanding is that Christians choose [88:20] to be it's religion. You choose to be a [88:22] Christian. But you know, we hear a lot [88:24] about Christian Judeo values. And that [88:26] is so true. But I want people to also [88:29] realize we're ti our fate is tied [88:31] together at the hip. If you look at [88:33] countries like Iraq, Yemen, Syria, all [88:36] formerly flourishing Jewish communities, [88:39] not only do they now have zero Jews, [88:42] zero in those countries, but they're [88:45] also the top of the list of the open [88:46] doors watch list for persecution against [88:49] Christians. They're come, this Marxist [88:52] Islamist's lines is coming for us both. [88:54] And I just want to say one last thing [88:56] about this. Why did mom Donnie boycott [88:58] the Israeli day parade but not the [89:00] Pakistan parade? Pakistan is in the top [89:03] 10 on the open doors Christian [89:05] persecution watch list for atrocities [89:08] against Christians. So why does mom dani [89:10] go to the Pakistan day parade but not [89:12] the Israeli day parade? They're after [89:14] both of us and I really hope that [89:17] Christians realize that. [89:19] You make a very good point. And uh then [89:22] we have the woke right and they're [89:24] trying to [89:26] uh divide Jews from Christian. They have [89:28] a whole replacement theory, don't they? [89:32] Yeah, it's despicable. I mean, the [89:34] things Tucker Carlson has said, he [89:36] claims that he cares about Christians. [89:38] No, he doesn't. He talks about buying a [89:40] house in Qatar. If he bought a house in [89:42] Qatar, you know who built it? Christian [89:45] slaves. The 300,000 Christians in Qatar [89:49] that he brags about and he says people, [89:52] these Christians prefer to live in Qatar [89:54] than Israel. No, they don't. They're [89:56] slaves. They're the ones they are they [89:58] are forced laborers. there. They have [90:00] owners who own their documentation. They [90:02] can't move around. They can't get paid. [90:05] It it is a despicable situation for [90:08] Tucker to say things like that when in [90:10] reality Qatar does not It is illegal to [90:13] be a citizen of Qatar if you are a [90:15] Christian. It is illegal to wear a cross [90:18] in Qatar. It's illegal to procilitize if [90:20] you're Christian in Qatar. So, you're [90:22] right. It's coming from the potans or [90:25] woke rice. He's, you know, I hate this [90:27] term work, woke rice, because Tucker [90:29] Carlson doesn't say anything [90:30] conservative in my view anymore. He, to [90:33] me, he's a he's espousing non- [90:35] capitalist anti-freedom, anti-free [90:37] speech values today. So, I don't even [90:39] think he's associated with the right. [90:42] >> So, you've got this this this prize, [90:44] this layout of a legal strategy. [90:47] >> Are there litigators who you've shared [90:50] this with and who've taken an interest [90:51] in because they should? [90:54] >> I have. Some of them have been on your [90:56] show and some of the top um Jewish [90:59] litigators in the nation and and all of [91:01] them have given me positive feedback so [91:03] far and some good criticism criticism [91:05] that helped me to craft this. I think [91:08] the biggest mistake people make today in [91:11] litigation u and in real life is talking [91:14] about the conflict in Gaza and talking [91:17] about the war. you should not put [91:19] Israel's military history into a [91:22] pleading in a you know when you're when [91:24] you're filing a complaint in court. And [91:26] that's been the big that's happened. You [91:28] know the like the Irish definition of [91:30] anti-semitism is a very good document [91:32] and it's very useful. Don't [91:34] misunderstand me. I totally support it [91:36] and it has its place in the world but [91:38] not in a discrimination case filed in [91:41] federal or state court because there may [91:44] be a double standard against Israel. I [91:46] of course see that and it's horrible and [91:49] yes it is anti-Semitic but it has [91:51] nothing to do with plaintiffs [91:52] discriminated against just for being [91:54] Jewish or Zionist or or a practicing Jew [91:57] like we talked about earlier here in [91:59] America. What practitioners need to [92:02] focus on who is the protected class and [92:07] what were they being dis you know how [92:09] are they being treated desperately as [92:11] American Jews and practitioners should [92:14] not talk about the righteous it is a [92:16] righteous war that Israel is fighting in [92:18] Gaza don't get me wrong but that's a [92:20] different discussion that's a moral [92:22] discussion that's a an international law [92:24] discussion um it's not a pleading [92:27] discussion for a case here in the United [92:29] States and practitioners have not [92:31] realized that and that's why so many [92:33] cases are getting dismissed. It's really [92:34] unfortunate. [92:37] >> Hey, just to circle back briefly, one of [92:39] the reasons I think you'll agree or your [92:42] take on it that uh the Israelis come to [92:45] the defense of Christians in Syria and [92:48] try to come to the defense of Christians [92:50] in Africa and elsewhere is because of [92:53] this not only the humanity of it but [92:55] because of this connection between [92:57] Judaism and Christianity in the Holy [92:59] Land. Right. [93:02] >> Absolutely. And the Kurds, too. I mean, [93:04] Israel has prevented more genocide. It's [93:07] it's it's what Netanyahu's speech today, [93:09] which was just brilliant, as always. I [93:12] mean, I call him the modern-day Winston [93:14] Churchill. I think when all this is said [93:15] and done, he will be seen if we win. We [93:18] got to win this war. But, and I don't [93:20] just mean Israel Gaza. I mean the war [93:22] for freedom in the world. And if we win [93:25] this war, I think he'll be seen as as a [93:27] modern-day Winston Churchill. Um but [93:29] yeah, they've they've prevented more [93:32] genocides than anybody. They are [93:34] fighting. People don't realize they're [93:36] protecting everyone, even the people who [93:38] walked out today. You know, like you [93:40] said, protecting all these count, the [93:41] Saudis from these horrible, horrific [93:44] terrorists. And you know, Netanyahu said [93:47] so truthfully that these countries thank [93:50] him in closed doors and quiet in a [93:52] whisper and then they go and walk out on [93:54] him at the at the UN, which is [93:56] despicable and obviously shows a total [93:58] lack of moral clarity. [94:00] >> By the way, as a footnote, I saw the UAE [94:02] was there. They sat there and they [94:04] stayed there. [94:06] >> The UAE worked together with Israel on [94:09] Iron Dome technology to protect UAE [94:13] civilians. I mean it it just shows you [94:15] that is I mean these countries in the [94:18] Middle East know better than anyone the [94:20] real danger the real evil that that is [94:23] the root of the problem in the Middle [94:24] East. They know that Israel deep down [94:26] they know Israel are the are the good [94:28] guys and that's why they work with them. [94:30] They who knows better than those [94:32] countries that have to deal with the [94:33] terrorists. [94:35] >> Well, we're going to post this [94:36] commentary magazine piece he wrote here. [94:38] We're talking to Professor Jeffrey Lax. [94:41] It's a great piece. the Jewish Prize, a [94:43] five-point plan to fight anti-semitism [94:45] in court and win. And you ought to [94:48] follow him on social media. He's [94:49] absolutely brilliant. And he's a [94:51] fighter. That's what I like. We [94:53] fightersh have to stand together. Right, [94:55] Professor? [94:57] >> That's what I love about you, too, Mark. [95:01] >> All right, brother. I hope to meet you [95:02] one day, too. God bless you, sir. [95:05] >> Anytime. Anytime. [95:06] >> All right. You You take care. He's a [95:09] delight. [95:10] He's also smart as hell as you can see. [95:14] But this is important. I would, you [95:16] know, from a universalized perspective. [95:18] Most of you folks in my audience, you're [95:20] not Jewish. Most of you are Christian. [95:23] And the point is that these battles that [95:25] are being fought in the Holy Land. The [95:27] Holy Land is your land, too. That is [95:30] where Jesus walked, where Jesus died, [95:33] where Jesus was buried. Bethlehem. You [95:37] heard the prime minister point out today [95:40] when they were required really to turn [95:41] it over to the Palestinians, it was 80 [95:44] 90% Christian. Now it's 80 90% [95:46] Palestinian because they harass and [95:48] threaten and force the Christians out. [95:51] And as you heard the professor say, and [95:53] we've talked about before, you see this [95:54] throughout the Middle East. He's right. [95:57] Yemen was Christian. Iraq was Christian. [95:59] It's incredible. Lebanon was Christian. [96:03] Egypt was was Christian. Now it's about [96:05] 10% Coptic. Syria was Christian. East [96:09] was all all Christian. And before that, [96:13] big segments of the Middle East were [96:15] majority Jewish. [96:18] So how can it possibly be [96:20] that the latest of the religions, Islam, [96:24] only 1,400 years old compared to Judaism [96:27] and Christianity, [96:29] that they own the entire Middle East? [96:34] Muslims didn't even exist when the Jews [96:37] were walking through the Middle East or [96:40] the Christians were walking through the [96:42] Middle East, let alone Palestinians. [96:45] That whole thing was invented by the KGB [96:47] in 1964, 1965. [96:51] And so when you see these European [96:52] nations, they're all dying, these [96:54] countries. They've all surrendered. [96:56] They've all been taken over. You have [96:58] left-wing governments with open borders. [97:01] They've destroyed their their cultures [97:03] and their societies. Britain is a [97:05] disaster to look at that now. And France [97:08] and the rest of these Western European [97:11] countries, the Eastern European [97:12] countries seem to be holding on, [97:14] certainly holding on better than the [97:16] West. Our countries now being heavily [97:19] invaded and infiltrated. [97:22] I don't see really other than talk a [97:25] hell of a lot being done about it. to be [97:27] quite honest about it. Most of what's [97:29] taking place are these litigation [97:31] battles that that Jeffrey's talking [97:34] about and some of these other people [97:35] we've had on are talking about. uh [97:38] enforcement battles that we certainly [97:40] appreciate coming out of DOJ, but you're [97:43] not seeing, you know, imams who are [97:47] talking about destroying the United [97:49] States, who are pushing violence, who [97:51] are talking about imposing their [97:53] religion on everybody else in our [97:55] country and so forth and so on. You're [97:56] not seeing anything done to them. [97:59] I don't see it. If I'm wrong, somebody [98:01] show me. [98:04] Somebody show me. It's a big deal. [98:09] Yep. All right. [98:12] I enjoyed that interview. He's a good [98:13] man. First time I've ever spoken to him. [98:16] It's hard to get to me, isn't it, Mr. [98:18] Producer? I've got 400 layers of stuff [98:21] because otherwise I'd be, you know, I [98:24] don't have time to deal with everybody [98:25] all the time, but he's not, [98:28] you know, typical. He's really [98:30] exceptional in my view. And so, uh, I [98:33] wanted to make sure that we took some [98:35] time when it came to my attention, [98:38] uh, for us to talk to him. [98:40] We'll be right back. [98:42] >> My love, [98:53] definitely check out that that piece by [98:56] Jeffrey Lax uh, commentary and we do [99:00] link to it. [99:02] Let us go to Tom. Actually, you may go [99:05] first to Dave, Kansas City, Kansas on [99:08] iHeart Radio. Go right ahead, please. [99:12] >> Good evening. Tuck Grassley appointed [99:16] Tuck Grassley appointed Tim Kelly. [99:19] >> He didn't appoint him, but he must have [99:21] promoted him. You mean? [99:23] >> Absolutely. He was ABA wellqualified. [99:26] Now, it's it's past time to defend these [99:28] obstacles. [99:29] >> Well, hold on a minute. So he worked on [99:31] the hill for Grassly, you're telling me? [99:34] >> Yes, sir. Then before that, [99:35] >> he's a disaster. This Tim Kelly [99:39] >> is an absolute disaster, Mark. And just [99:41] like Boseberg, just like Burl and the [99:43] rest of them on the DC circuit, they [99:45] need to go. They absolutely need to go. [99:47] >> Well, we can't remove them, but they all [99:49] come out of the same climate. You're [99:51] exactly right. What needs to go is that [99:54] we need to move these judgeships out of [99:57] Washington, DC. move them out because it
[100:01] is incestuous what goes on here. So this
[100:04] guy Kelly, he was appointed, no doubt,
[100:06] because Grassly went to the White House
[100:09] cuz the guy worked on the judiciary
[100:11] committee with Grassly, you're telling
[100:12] me. And uh it's how the guy gets his
[100:15] job.
[100:17] >> 94 to2, Mark. 942.
[100:19] >> 94-2. You know what? If you're getting
[100:22] 94 votes, something's wrong,
[100:26] don't you think? Absolutely. Absolutely
[100:29] 100% Mark.
[100:30] >> Yeah.
[100:31] >> I just it just frustrates me to no end
[100:33] when these people when the Congress
[100:36] passes a law or a state legislature
[100:38] passes a law then all of a sudden these
[100:39] radicals and rogues behind the bench
[100:41] come up and say boom. Like in Utah we're
[100:44] going to create a new de democratic
[100:46] district. Like in Missouri the Supreme
[100:47] Court's going to say, "No, you already
[100:49] had your primary, but we're done. We're
[100:51] going back to the old map 62 versus the
[100:53] 71." and the federal judge in Ohio after
[100:56] Ohio legislature passes birthright
[100:59] citizenship. Oh no, we can't do that
[101:01] now. And then these guys play these
[101:03] games where oh it's too close to the
[101:06] election to do anything and then after
[101:08] the election oh
[101:09] >> you mean with the mail? Yeah, it's
[101:10] ridiculous. And and by the way, the
[101:13] courts purposely delayed ruling at the
[101:17] lower court level so the time clock
[101:20] would be very very tight. And the
[101:22] Supreme Court goes for it. Alto was the
[101:25] one that said, "What are we doing here?
[101:27] The judiciary is responsible for this.
[101:30] We should be ruling properly."
[101:34] >> Yep.
[101:34] >> Absolutely.
[101:35] >> Good call, Dave. Go ahead. What else?
[101:40] >> All right. the Fle within Library. When
[101:42] we gonna have that a collection of books
[101:44] that you sell.
[101:46] >> Ah, you're a good man. All right, Dave.
[101:49] Thank you.
[101:51] I can't really put it in my hometown of
[101:52] Philadelphia. They'll probably burn it
[101:54] down. You know what I mean, Mr.
[101:55] Producer?
[101:58] Yeah. And most of the people who burn it
[102:00] down probably aren't uh reading English
[102:02] either. So, I don't know.
[102:05] Ladies and gentlemen, we're out of time.
[102:06] I'd take the other calls. I really
[102:08] would. We have so much to do. We can't
[102:10] get to it, but we we had a great guest
[102:12] and a great show.
[102:15] And I want to thank you most of all. We
[102:17] salute our armed forces, police
[102:19] officers, firefighters, emergency
[102:20] personnel, ICE, our truckers, the men
[102:23] and women in Ukraine and Israel and in
[102:26] Iran. And you, the American people most
[102:28] of all, what do you say we do this
[102:31] tomorrow? Same place, same time. Have a
[102:33] great night.
