Transcript [00:00] I'm proud of my country and I'm proud of [00:01] the Israeli society and I'm [music] [00:03] proud to tell you that there are so many [00:04] great people here that supports me, [00:06] supports my way. What's the initials of [00:08] the IDF? [00:08] >> Uh, Israel Defense Force. [00:10] >> So, it's not the JDF, not the Jewish [00:11] Defense Force. [00:12] >> It's not It's not really [00:14] >> You know why I'm asking you this? [00:15] Because many people ask me, you [00:16] volunteered to serve in the army. And I [00:18] said, hold on, look at what happened [00:19] just from the 7th of October. I'm not [00:21] even [music] going further. Just from [00:22] the 7th of October where our enemies [00:24] massacred Jews and Arabs and kidnapped [00:25] Jews and Arabs. I guess [music] I just [00:27] show everybody that I'm proud Arab and [00:29] proud Israeli. [00:30] >> Do you think that could be a solution to [00:32] coexisting here? What What's your [00:34] >> Oh my god, I love that you said [00:35] coexisting because I hate this word. [00:37] >> Oh, really? [00:37] >> Yes. You know, why? [00:40] >> You're [music] a Jew, right? [00:41] >> I am. [00:41] >> Yeah. I'm an Arab. Okay. [00:43] >> Coexistence says like this. [music] [00:46] You're not going anywhere. I'm not going [00:48] anywhere. Yeah. [00:50] >> Mhm. [00:51] >> You don't like me. [00:52] >> I don't like you. But since we're not [00:55] going anywhere, let's live in [00:56] coexistence. [01:02] >> Ysef Hadad, it's great to be here with [01:04] you. Thank you for coming. [01:06] >> Shukran, thank you for having me. [01:07] >> You've emerged now as a major um figure [01:10] in the politics right now, right before [01:12] a critical moment in the elections. And [01:15] I mean, you came to the the public eye [01:19] before you know the election campaign [01:21] started. um mostly more more [01:24] specifically after October 7th. Um you [01:27] were a figure that emerged um speaking [01:29] out advocating for Israel um as an [01:32] Arab-Israeli and I wanted to just [01:35] actually begin by starting with that [01:37] kind of point. [01:38] >> Well, first of all, I've been doing this [01:40] advocacy for about 10 years now. Uh the [01:43] 7th of October only made it much bigger. [01:47] >> Mhm. And I wish I could have gone back [01:49] the 6th of October, prevent that and [01:52] I'll get bigger maybe few years later or [01:55] more after more time. But that's fine. I [01:58] wish we could have done that. I wish we [02:00] could have u uh uh uh avoided the 7th of [02:03] October uh where Hamas massacred [02:06] Israelis, both Jews and Arabs, and they [02:09] kidnapped Jews and Arabs. [02:11] >> Yeah. [02:11] >> And they did the worst atrocities to [02:14] Israelis. [02:16] And I thought that that moment is a [02:18] defining moment also for me to stand up [02:20] for my country, for my people, to stand [02:23] up for the Israeli society which has [02:25] Jews and Arabs. [02:27] >> Mhm. [02:28] >> And u I didn't look back at that moment [02:30] that just going forward as much as [02:33] possible. [02:33] >> And what was the response when you from [02:35] the Arab community, let's say, and the [02:37] Israeli community when you started [02:38] advocating for Israel so publicly? So [02:40] when I started doing that obviously you [02:43] you know that we have extremists in the [02:46] Arab-Israeli community. I know that they [02:48] are minority. I know [02:50] >> the thing is that for some people [02:54] because of the fact that one they do not [02:57] understand and realize what is the Arab [02:59] society in Israel and do not speak the [03:00] Arabic language as well. It's for it's [03:03] very hard for them to define um who's [03:05] actually extremist who and who's not. [03:07] Mhm. [03:08] >> I know. And I don't say that the [03:10] Arab-Israelis are like me. Patriotic [03:13] Israeli. I don't think even Jews are [03:15] like me. [03:16] >> I don't say that the Arab Israelis are [03:18] like me. [03:18] >> Okay. [03:19] >> The majority of the Arab Israelis [03:21] >> want to live in Israel. [03:22] >> They know that the only country in the [03:24] Middle East which will give them rights, [03:26] the rights of speech, uh right of [03:29] religion, freedom of movement. All this [03:31] can happen only in Israel. I'm telling [03:34] you as an Arab, I'm not going to live [03:35] and I don't want to live in any other [03:37] country in the Middle East beside [03:39] Israel. Let alone to add the fact that [03:41] I'm an Arab from the Christian [03:44] community, [03:44] >> right? [03:45] >> And as an Arab, Israeli Christian, I can [03:48] promise you. I can promise you the only [03:51] safe place in the Middle East for [03:52] Christians is here in Israel. Does that [03:55] mean that we do not suffer from a [03:58] isolated incident where you have racism [04:00] towards as well Christians? Of course we [04:03] we do just like any other country in the [04:05] world unfortunately but the country [04:07] always condemn it works against it the [04:10] people of Israel the majority of it [04:11] condemn it works against it come out [04:14] against it this is the um strengthening [04:17] or the strength of the Israeli society [04:19] and that's why [04:20] >> as an Arab as a Christian as an Israeli [04:24] with all those identities which [04:26] strengthen each other I'm exactly [04:28] entering politics and bring whatever [04:30] I've been doing in the last 10 [04:32] to the Israeli politics, [04:34] >> right? And um I wanted to ask you a bit, [04:37] you know, what you were doing in the [04:38] past. Um first off, did you feel that [04:41] you were discriminated against when you [04:43] were growing up? Um and later you served [04:45] in the IDF, which we can get into a bit, [04:47] but what how did how did you feel as an [04:50] Arab-Israeli growing up here? [04:51] >> I can tell you that I suffered from uh [04:53] racism, but do you want to hear [04:56] something crazy? [04:57] >> Yeah. The racism that I suffered comes [05:00] sometimes also uh from a minority [05:02] extremist from the Muslim community [05:05] >> and minority extremists from the Jewish [05:07] community. [05:08] >> So I do suffer from racism. But does [05:11] that allow defined my way and my vision? [05:16] I can give you a story that will exactly [05:18] show you how my way of thinking and my [05:22] vision to the Israeli society already [05:24] happened to me when I was in seventh [05:27] grade. [05:28] In the seventh grade, I was in a school [05:30] of 400 kids. I was the only Christian. [05:34] >> Wow. [05:34] >> Only Muslims. [05:36] >> Wow. [05:37] >> Okay. Tiny tiny minority of extremist [05:40] who hated me just because I am [05:42] Christian, [05:43] >> bullet me, spat on me, attacked me. [05:47] Tiny. [05:48] >> Yeah. If I would have generalized all [05:51] Muslims [05:52] because of them, [05:54] I would have actually lost from the [05:57] beginning my option to affect people and [06:00] change people's mind. But further than [06:02] that, I'll tell you [06:05] at the same time I suffered from those [06:07] extremists. [06:10] I was elected as the chair of the [06:13] student body of the school which means [06:18] >> majority of Muslim Exactly. [06:20] >> which means the only Christian [06:23] >> in a majority absolute majority of [06:27] Muslims voted for me to be head of the [06:30] student body. [06:32] This is my way to say never ever [06:35] generalize. [06:36] >> That goes back as well to the Jewish [06:37] community, [06:38] >> right? Do we suffer from racism? It [06:41] exists just like it exists in America, [06:42] just like it exists in Europe, [06:44] unfortunately, just like it exists [06:46] anywhere in the Middle East. But the [06:48] simple fact is that I refuse refuse to [06:52] go the path where if I see someone [06:54] racist, I will generalize the whole [06:55] community because of that. No, [06:57] >> in fact, it's the opposite. The vast [07:00] majority of the Israeli society are not [07:03] racist. And I'm speaking about the Dus [07:04] community and about the Muslim [07:05] community, about the Christian [07:07] community, and about the Jewish [07:08] community. And I can prove it. Just look [07:10] at what happening to me and the support [07:12] that I'm getting. [07:14] >> Bottom line, do not journalize. [07:16] >> The backlash hasn't been Have you been [07:18] getting backlash as well from from these [07:21] extremists you're talking about? [07:22] >> Let me give you an example. Okay. Just [07:24] about a few about a week ago, I think, [07:27] uh a very [07:29] known rabbi. Um he said that you [07:33] shouldn't vote for Isra, [07:34] >> right? [07:35] >> Uh because uh number two is [07:39] >> Yeah. [07:39] >> By the way, is a nation. I don't see [07:41] it as a as a as an insult. H just to let [07:44] you know. [07:44] >> Yes. [07:44] >> But [07:45] >> but it's a very the the way to call [07:47] someone that can be viewed as very, you [07:49] know, almost derogatory for, you know, [07:51] >> it is. Yeah. [07:52] >> In a way. [07:53] >> Yeah. [07:54] >> But hold on. That's not that's not my [07:56] message here. [07:59] The Israeli media in Hebrew [08:02] took that headline [08:05] >> and made it the headline of the day. You [08:07] know what was my problem? [08:09] >> What? that they took out one headline [08:12] from one sentence from a rabbi [08:15] and they didn't look to the other side [08:18] and see that dozens of rabbis including [08:21] Rabbi Leanon [08:23] >> and Rabbi Yahu [08:25] >> and rabbis from Tohal Rabbi Tohal [08:30] >> all of them said not only you are [08:32] allowed to vote for Israel and with Ysef [08:35] number two but Ysef is our brother. [08:38] >> Wow. So here is my question to the [08:41] media. Why the headline is this and not [08:45] that dozens of rabbis are supporting the [08:48] Arab-Israeli who wants to be a leader [08:51] here in Israel. [08:53] You know this is where I get my strength [08:56] from. But also I get my strength from in [08:58] a very odd way from this because once I [09:00] see that this is much bigger from this. [09:02] >> Yeah. With all that power, I come here [09:05] in front of you with full confidence and [09:07] tell you, yes, I'm proud of my country [09:10] and I'm proud of the Israeli society and [09:12] I'm proud to tell you that there are so [09:14] many great people here [09:15] >> that supports me, supports my way. And [09:18] you know what? Support is and remember [09:20] what I'm saying. We're going to speak [09:21] about it more, but we're going to be the [09:23] surprise of this election. [09:24] >> The surprise. [09:25] >> Absolutely. Absolutely. [09:27] >> Wow. I mean, you served in the IDF, [09:29] right? So [09:30] >> proudly. [09:31] >> Proud. So, um, [09:32] >> wait, what's the initials of the IDF? [09:34] >> Uh, Israel Defense Force. [09:36] >> So, it's not the JDF, not the Jewish [09:38] Defense Force. [09:38] >> It's not It's not [09:40] >> You know why I'm asking you this? [09:42] Because many people are asking me, "You [09:43] volunteered to serve in the army." And I [09:44] said, "Hold on. [09:46] >> Look at what happened just from the 7th [09:48] of October." I'm not even going further. [09:50] Just from the 7th of October [09:51] >> where our enemies massacred Jews and [09:53] Arabs and kidnapped Jews and Arabs. Then [09:55] if you go even to the uh do you remember [09:57] the first war with the Iranian regime [10:00] during the 12 day? [10:01] >> Yeah. [10:02] >> There was a specific day where a [10:04] ballistic missile fell on Tamra which is [10:06] an Arab city. [10:07] >> In a spam of 3 hours all that happened. [10:10] Yeah. Another ballistic missile fell on [10:12] Nebak which is a ultra Jewish Orthodox [10:14] city and then another missile fell on [10:16] Tel Aviv which is a very secular city. [10:18] So basically the Iranian regime targeted [10:21] Jews and Arabs left and right secular [10:23] and religious. Yeah. [10:25] >> All of them. When the IDF goes to fight, [10:27] the IDF doesn't say, "Oh, I'm going to [10:29] fight for Tel Aviv, but not because [10:31] they're Jewish or oh, I'm going to fight [10:33] for the Jews and not the Arabs. [10:34] >> The IDF fights for all Israel. And our [10:37] enemies attack all Israel." So, when I [10:40] went and volunteered to serve in the [10:42] Israeli army, in the IDF, [10:45] >> I knew that I'm going to protect my [10:46] country and protect my society. And when [10:48] I say my society, it's the Israeli [10:50] society. And when I say the Israeli [10:51] society, it's both Jews and Arabs. And [10:54] were you accepted in the IDF? Did you [10:55] feel? [10:56] >> Listen. [10:56] >> Yeah. [10:58] >> The second my foot step into the family [11:02] of Gulani, [11:04] there's no way back. That's it. I am be [11:06] I became immediately Gulanchic Golani. [11:09] >> Now does that mean that we don't have [11:11] some sort of actual or act of racism [11:14] towards uh minority soldiers? I know for [11:17] a fact that it happened. It happened in [11:20] number occasion. But the army deals with [11:22] it and deals with it in the best way. [11:24] And I'll tell you further than that, [11:26] specifically for me, okay? [11:28] >> I didn't have anything. And one time I [11:31] was asked uh um really how come and I [11:35] said, I don't know. I guess I just show [11:37] everybody that I'm proud Arab and proud [11:39] Israeli. [11:40] >> Yeah. [11:40] >> And you know, basically [11:42] >> people respect that. [11:43] >> Yeah. [11:43] >> People absolutely. [11:45] >> Do you think that could be a solution to [11:47] coexisting here? What? What's your [11:49] >> Oh my god, I love that you said [11:50] coexistent because I hate this word. [11:51] >> Oh, really? [11:52] >> Yes. You know what? Wait, [11:54] >> why? [11:55] >> You're a Jew, right? [11:56] >> I am. [11:56] >> Yeah, I'm an Arab. Okay. [11:58] >> Coexistence says like this. You're not [12:01] going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere. [12:04] Yeah. [12:04] >> Mhm. [12:05] >> You don't like me. [12:07] >> I don't like you. But since we're not [12:09] going anywhere, let's live in [12:11] coexistence. [12:13] This is a a good way to um categorize [12:16] maybe our the relationship with the [12:18] Jordanians or with the Egyptians. When [12:20] it comes to the Arab Israelis, I like to [12:22] use the definition partnership [12:25] >> or sharaki in Arabic. [12:27] >> Sharaki. [12:28] >> Sout or partnership is something that [12:32] exists in Israel. And this is my [12:34] opportunity to tell you exactly about [12:36] the partnership between Jews and Arabs [12:37] in the 7th of October. And I am going to [12:39] give you even names. Ysef is Zedadi. [12:42] He's an Arab Muslim from Mahhat. Worked [12:44] as a bus driver in the Nova party. [12:48] During the attack, bullets were fired at [12:51] him. Like [clears throat] literally [12:52] bullets were flying over his head. Ysef [12:55] is saved over 30 Israelis. All of them [12:58] were Jews. [12:59] >> And then he was asked on TV on Israel, [13:02] Ysef, you were saying that bullets were [13:04] flying all over your head. Why didn't [13:05] you run away? Do you know what was the [13:07] answer of the Arab Muslim from Rahhat, [13:09] Yusf Zadi? When he was asked why he [13:11] didn't run away, [13:12] >> why? [13:13] >> He said, "I'm an Israeli and there were [13:16] Israelis there. Why would I run away?" [13:19] >> That's partnership, not coexisting. [13:21] >> Yeah. So, what do you say about let's [13:23] say there's, you know, Arabs here who [13:25] are saying, you know, we're pro Hamas [13:28] >> and, you know, and and vice versa, [13:30] there's also, you know, Jews who are [13:32] saying, you know, we should just wipe [13:33] out Gaza. So, how [13:35] >> well first of all, [13:36] >> what do you think about these two [13:37] approaches, you know? [13:38] >> Well, let's let's start from the first [13:39] one. [13:40] >> Yeah. [13:40] >> I'm going to fight every anti-Israeli, [13:44] whether he's a Jew or an Arab. [13:46] >> And make no mistakes, after the 7th of [13:49] October, the people who brought the [13:51] protests against the IDF and call it an [13:54] occupier army and called genocide, it [13:56] was coming from the minority of a Jewish [13:59] community. [14:00] >> Check me. Check me. [14:02] >> Yeah. And after that [14:05] the extremists from my society joined [14:07] the Jews the extremist Jews from you [14:10] know uh if I want to be more uh accurate [14:12] in the on categorizing them they're [14:15] belonging to the hard left extremism. [14:18] Yeah [14:19] >> right [14:20] >> they're the first one who came to start [14:22] and start demonstrating uh against the [14:26] occupier or the IDF that that occupies [14:29] or whatever which is a complete nonsense [14:31] and I can prove it. Okay. [14:32] >> Yeah. [14:33] >> But then after that, because they saw [14:35] the Arab society, the extremists in my [14:36] society saw that the the the extremists [14:38] from the Jewish society are protesting [14:39] and calling the IDF occupiers and [14:42] genocide and ethnic cleansing. They [14:45] start doing it the as well. I'm going to [14:47] fight both of them and I'm going to [14:49] demolish them because I hate people who [14:52] lie. Now, does that mean that the IDF is [14:54] perfect? No way. Far away from being [14:56] perfect. But compare it to the other [14:58] armies in the world. I'm telling you [15:00] this is the most moral army in the world [15:02] and I can back it up with facts. Just [15:04] bring it on and and I should say I was [15:07] already against 10 pro Palestinian [15:09] terrorist supporter neo-Nazis just a a [15:12] month ago. Okay. [15:14] >> And each and every one of them with [15:16] their lives. [15:16] >> Were you there? [15:17] >> I was in Vegas actually. [15:18] >> Oh wow. [15:19] >> Uh for that debate. I I've literally [15:21] flown for that debate 10on-one [15:23] >> and I'm telling you I crushed it. Not [15:25] only not not only I questioned but at [15:27] one point a neo-Nazi came to attack me [15:29] physically [15:29] >> really [15:30] >> and at the beginning I responded with [15:33] restraint [15:34] >> I showed the IDF strength and by the way [15:37] you can see in the in the footage it was [15:39] all online you'd see him coming from [15:41] around the table [15:43] >> put his arms around me pinch me here and [15:46] I'm not responding because I know that [15:47] this is what he wants so I just took his [15:49] hand out and said hey stop after that [15:51] while the debate got heated again he [15:54] catches my hand with both of his hand [15:56] and tried to pull me. The only mistake [15:58] is that he didn't know that I am a [16:01] gulani. [16:03] >> I pulled him back. [16:04] >> I pulled him back. I grabbed his head, [16:07] put him down on the table and with my [16:09] fist, I was already close to punch him [16:12] and put him down. But I stopped myself. [16:14] You know what? Because I already put him [16:17] down and I already humiliated him. So I [16:19] stopped myself. A lot of people showed [16:21] that said that this is strength to know [16:23] how to stop even when the attacker or [16:26] the other person is the attacker but did [16:28] not end in there. Then he waited for me [16:30] on the park in the parking lot. [16:32] >> Yeah. [16:32] >> While I was going out [16:34] >> and while I was to the back to him, he [16:37] jumped on me and choked me. [16:38] >> Wow. [16:39] >> I turned around and I punched him. He [16:43] got a punch like a neon Nazi deserved [16:46] that punch in the name of the entire [16:49] Israeli society. And you know what? I [16:52] didn't want to go that way. He wanted to [16:54] go that way. And then neonazi got what [16:57] he deserved. [16:58] >> And do you think in Israel like you know [17:00] when we're when we're here in Israel, [17:02] should violence be an approach that we [17:04] take? Like [17:05] >> absolutely not. [17:07] >> Absolutely not. In fact, I did not uh uh [17:11] approach violence or responded in an act [17:14] of aggressiveness until I had to. [17:17] >> Yeah. [17:17] >> Until I was forced to. In fact, I tried [17:20] to avoid it multiple times and it's all [17:22] on camera. Many people also commented [17:24] and said, "You're speaking about the IDF [17:27] being k baby killers or being [17:28] aggressive." I saw one side being [17:30] aggressive and the IDF commander being [17:33] the one who is restraining himself and [17:35] being the one who is trying to avoid [17:37] that situation until you backed them to [17:39] the corner and needed to defend himself. [17:41] >> So of course I do not want violent, [17:43] >> right? [17:44] >> But I do want strength, which means when [17:47] it comes to the army, when it comes to [17:48] the police, no more You're an [17:51] anti-Israeli. You incite against Israel, [17:53] you incite against the army, there going [17:55] to be consequences. and we we the state [17:58] we need to take control in order for the [18:01] people not to start finding for them [18:03] solutions which I don't agree with by [18:05] the way. So that makes me um want to [18:08] know your thoughts on actually if we're [18:10] talking about extremist right-wing, we [18:12] have right now um itar Bengir. He's our [18:15] national security minister, meaning that [18:17] he oversees the police. Yep. [18:19] >> And at the same time, we also have like [18:20] a spike in crime in the past four years, [18:24] especially um in the Arab community. [18:26] Yep. [18:26] >> So I wanted to hear your thoughts on on [18:28] the spike in crime, what should be done [18:30] about it, and get the Ben after. [18:33] >> So here's the thing. When it comes to [18:35] the Arab-Israeli society, [18:38] there's a very bad sentence that I don't [18:41] like that they say that the leaders of [18:43] the Arab society [18:45] always say or do. [18:48] And the sentence goes like this. [18:51] When great things happened to the [18:52] Arab-Israeli society, it's happening [18:55] despite of Israel. And when bad things [18:57] happen to the Israeli society, to the [18:59] Arab-Israeli society, it's happening [19:01] because of Israel. What I'm trying to [19:03] say here is we have shared [19:05] responsibility and now I am asking the [19:08] Israeli people for their vote of [19:09] confidence to put me as close as [19:11] possible to the table where the [19:13] decisions are made [19:14] >> because I want to be there and because I [19:16] want to affect I know that my country [19:19] have responsibility. I also know that as [19:22] a leader in the Arab society the leaders [19:25] of the Arab society and the Arab society [19:27] have responsibility as well. But I'm not [19:29] going to stop here. I'm going to give [19:31] you an actual case so you can understand [19:34] better because usually people are just [19:37] saying populist sentences kind of like [19:39] what I just said. But when you back it [19:41] up with an actual story, you'd [19:43] understand what I mean, [19:44] >> right? [19:45] >> One of my friends, he actually got [19:47] stabbed [19:48] >> for doing nothing. [19:49] >> Arab friend. [19:50] >> An Arab friend. Yes. In Nazareth and he [19:53] got stabbed [19:55] doing nothing. He was on the right wrong [19:57] place, wrong time. [19:58] >> That's it. And there was a a a fight [20:02] between two criminals from the Arab [20:04] society. [20:05] He as an idiot decided to go in and try [20:08] to separate between them and he got a [20:10] knife and he got stabbed. He saw the [20:13] attacker. He reported the attacker. The [20:16] police even did their job and they [20:19] stopped the attacker, the stabber. [20:20] >> Yeah. [20:21] >> They put him in front of the court, in [20:22] front of the judge. And what did the [20:24] judge give him? [20:26] >> More [20:26] >> community work. [20:28] after 6 months he's over he's done and [20:32] he's back on the street threaten again [20:34] please [20:34] >> whose fault is it in in this [20:35] >> everybody the system us everything so [20:40] the bottom line you have hundreds of [20:42] Arab Israelis that were killed because [20:44] of a crime the bottom line the office [20:48] that's supposed to make sure that those [20:50] numbers do not spike and arrive at that [20:52] place didn't do the job responsible the [20:56] leaders from my community who their job [20:59] is to cooperate and if not cooperate at [21:01] least to lead to a better society [21:04] they're not doing it they're responsible [21:06] too when I inshallah [21:10] hopefully with Israel of vint will reach [21:14] the uh uh goal and we will [21:18] we will be as close as possible where [21:22] the decisions have been taken and we're [21:24] going to affect them and we're going to [21:25] change them including the situation with [21:27] the Arab-Israeli society and in terms of [21:29] uh protection and violence that I [21:32] promise you. [21:32] >> So I guess that leads me into getting [21:34] into how you got into politics now. [21:38] >> Um you've chosen to join Afair Winter. [21:41] >> Yep. [21:42] >> Who is um he's it's the Israel people of [21:45] Israel party. [21:47] >> You know there was a lot of thought [21:48] talks about like where will you go, who [21:49] will you join if you'll run alone? You [21:51] establish [21:52] >> we know all the way that we're riding [21:53] alone. [21:54] >> Oh really? [21:54] >> All the way. The only thing that [21:57] happened, [21:58] >> the only thing [21:59] >> that would have made us change our mind [22:02] if there was a connection with a new [22:05] party, with new people, a new spirit. [22:09] >> Okay? Right? [22:10] >> Because of the fact that there wasn't. [22:12] >> Then you were like, we're doing [22:13] >> we knew from the beginning that our [22:15] mission is we're the only party. [22:18] >> Look at this. We're the only party in [22:20] Israel today that has only new faces, [22:23] new spirit, new people that comes from [22:26] the ground. [22:28] >> Yeah. [22:29] >> Show me another party. [22:30] >> And you've said that this is important [22:31] especially after October 7th. [22:33] >> Listen, it's not about being equal in [22:34] the responsibility or the guilt. [22:37] >> Yeah. [22:38] >> But all of them have responsibility. The [22:41] idea is that the opposition their job is [22:44] to challenge the coalition. They didn't [22:46] do that. the coalition their job is to [22:48] do their job and they didn't do that. So [22:51] that's why on the 7th of October I said [22:53] anyone who was there in the Knesset [22:55] failed big time home habit that's what I [22:59] said on the 8th of October [23:00] >> and then you and and now getting to this [23:02] point then we have now a fair winter who [23:05] wants to start his party. So why did you [23:07] choose him specifically to be the one? [23:09] >> So I had I had three specific path to [23:13] take. First one being independent [23:15] opening my own party [23:17] >> and go all the way as the leader of that [23:19] party. The second option was or the [23:22] second path was going with something [23:23] familiar. Okay. [23:25] >> And I got tons of offers. But what I [23:28] would say is that the third path was to [23:31] join something new. And when I met offer [23:33] of Intel, um, we literally agreed on 99% [23:37] of ideology and principles. [23:39] >> What convinced me even more is the [23:42] people that he gathered. [23:43] >> Yeah. Lai Derry Hassan [23:47] uh Run Bner Elino [23:51] Seigalik Benar Natal these are names of [23:55] people David all of them came from the [23:58] like working in the ground with the [24:01] people for the people [24:02] >> and once I heard those names and I said [24:04] amen [24:05] >> wow [24:05] >> amen [24:07] >> so you know just for anyone who doesn't [24:11] know Israeli politics so much But um you [24:15] know there's the Nit the way it works in [24:17] Israel is usually there's the Netanyahu [24:19] block and then there's the [24:19] anti-Netanyahu block. Which block do you [24:21] belong to and who do you want to be? [24:24] >> We do not we do not belong to a block. [24:28] We belong to a camp. [24:30] >> We do not belong to the a a a block that [24:33] says Rako BB no BB or the block we say [24:37] only BB. Okay. We are a rightwing [24:42] political [24:44] Zionist patriotic party. Okay. So Israel [24:48] measad as number two. I look at the [24:52] political map. First of all when we look [24:56] at the Arab parties and in the Arab [24:59] parties we have to split to two parties. [25:02] You have the joint list and then you [25:03] have Mans Abbas. Why it's we have to [25:06] split because one is advocating for [25:09] something and the others are advocating [25:10] for another thing more extremist. [25:12] >> Yeah. [25:13] >> But both of them [25:14] >> one maybe wants to be part of the next [25:15] coalition a bit more than [25:16] >> Hold on. Hold on. My mission is to throw [25:18] them out of the kineset. Hold on. [25:20] >> Because what Mans Abbas is telling you [25:22] in Hebrew is not what he's telling me in [25:24] Arabic. [25:26] >> Okay. And I'm here to No, no, no. What? [25:29] when he's obviously not speaking to you [25:31] as well, but you're hearing what he says [25:32] in Hebrew through the media. So, I hear [25:35] what he says in Arabic through the [25:36] media. [25:37] >> I see. [25:37] >> You see, that's what I mean when he [25:38] speaks to me as a citizen when he speaks [25:41] to you as a citizen. [25:43] >> Right? [25:43] >> But we're going to come to Mos Abbas. [25:45] Let's start with the join list. [25:46] >> You have there Ahmed Ti, Ysef Jabarin, [25:49] and Sami Abushi, which three of them are [25:52] the leaders of three different parties. [25:54] All those three different parties do not [25:55] even agree with each other. They're just [25:56] running together because this is the [25:58] only way that they can pass the [25:59] threshold and actually have something. [26:01] But in between them, there is even [26:04] hatred. [26:04] >> Mhm. [26:05] >> All of them are terrorist supporters. [26:08] >> Terrorist supporters. [26:09] >> All of them are terrorist supporters. [26:10] And listen, the problem with Jews asking [26:13] me about this. [26:14] >> No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. I listen. [26:16] If I'm saying something, I'm going to [26:17] back it up. [26:18] >> Yeah. [26:18] >> Okay. [26:20] As I said, unlike people from the Jewish [26:23] community when they come and say, "Oh, [26:25] Ahmedib is a terrorist supporter. Oh, [26:27] Samad is a terrorist supporter." And [26:29] then asks them, "Oh, why do you say [26:30] that?" And they say, "Well, because no, [26:32] no, no. I will tell you why I say that. [26:36] Sami Abu Shadi [26:38] for him there's no Israel." And he is [26:41] using the Kineset and the laws of the [26:42] Kineset and the law of Israeli [26:45] the Isra the the state of Israel. Yeah. [26:49] to promote his agenda and his agenda is [26:52] that settlers are not in Judea and [26:54] Samaria. Settlers are in Gushan. [26:57] >> Settlers are in Tel Aviv [27:01] Ashkanat is not [27:04] >> this is Abu Hadi. The same that supports [27:08] the PLO Ahmed that supports the PLO Yari [27:12] that supports the PL. The same PLO that [27:14] pays terrorists. terrorists that came to [27:17] kill you and me that's supporting [27:18] terrorism and don't tell me otherwise. [27:20] >> So you think they should be banned from [27:22] running in these elections? [27:23] >> Absolutely. And I'll tell you further [27:25] than that. Now since some of the uh [27:28] parties are saying maybe we will not [27:30] join forces with them but maybe we will [27:32] lean on their voices. [27:34] >> Yeah. [27:34] >> Pathetic. [27:36] >> Pathetic. Leaning on the voices of [27:39] terror supporters. All right let's move [27:42] on to Abbas. [27:43] >> Yes. because we have an interesting [27:44] development there with who's on second [27:46] on his list which is a Jewish Zionist [27:49] former yes [27:51] yelovich [27:53] uh and this has never happened before in [27:55] the history of the party. Bravo, bravo, [27:58] bravo Abbas. Bravo, Sigovich, let me ask [28:00] you this. [28:00] >> And and Sigalovich was the former police [28:03] head. Um, so you know, he's coming with [28:06] a lot of background also from the Laid [28:08] Bennett government to fight, you know, [28:10] Arab crime. That's his like goal that he [28:12] says. What do you think about that? [28:14] >> Here's the thing. And then I want you to [28:16] ask me if I put a mirror, what would I [28:19] do? Remember? [28:20] >> Okay. [28:22] Sigalovich is the useful idiot of [28:26] >> he was brought as a shield to Mansur [28:28] Abbas because Mansur Abbass can't say [28:30] that Hamas is a terrorist organization. [28:33] >> Mhm. [28:34] >> Pathetic. [28:36] Sad. [28:38] Sad. Now [28:39] >> the mirror. [28:40] >> The mirror. [28:43] You're talking to an Arab Israeli [28:47] number two in Israel that says that he's [28:50] going to be a minister of Israeli, [28:53] >> right? [28:54] >> That says that he wants to be in the war [28:55] cabinet and that is getting support from [28:59] the Jewish community and by the way the [29:02] Arab community, the silent Arab [29:04] community and those who don't want to [29:05] vote, not to the journalists and not to [29:07] Mas Abbas. And I do believe that we can [29:09] get at least two seats from the Arab [29:11] votes with with all the incitement of [29:14] the last 10 years in the Arab media in [29:16] Israel. With that, I still have a goal [29:18] of taking two seats from the Arab voices [29:21] and I will and we will because I know [29:23] that there's voices that wants to change [29:25] that. But the thing is that I'm actually [29:28] saying that Hamas is a terrorist [29:29] organization that killed Jews and Arabs [29:31] and I'm saying that I'm going to fight [29:33] them and destroy them. And you have a [29:35] leader [29:37] in the Arab society by the name of [29:39] Mansour Abbas that is scared to tell you [29:42] you the Israeli Jew and me the Israeli [29:45] Arab that Hamas that killed both of our [29:47] people. Yeah. That Hamas is not [29:50] terrorist organization and he bought [29:52] Sigalovich [29:54] to shield for him. Offer winter doesn't [29:58] need the shield from me. I don't need [30:00] the shield from Offer Vint. We are two [30:02] independent leaders. [30:04] But you know why I follow a winter? [30:08] Because he's in the same ideology. My [30:10] mission is to show the Arab society that [30:13] there is no longer a Ramlah. It's time [30:15] for Nazareth, [30:18] Rahhat, Hifa, Yafo. It's time for the [30:21] Israeli society and specifically the [30:24] Arab Israeli society to be a part of [30:26] this country. I believe that we're going [30:28] to be bigger because of the fact that we [30:30] will have the Arab votes and the as [30:32] well. the [30:33] >> Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, [30:36] >> number five in [30:38] >> Why do you think the [30:39] >> I'll tell you why. [30:40] >> I'll I I'll talk about myself at the end [30:43] because the are very important for me [30:45] and the Jewish diaspora are very [30:46] important for me. And yes, as an Arab [30:49] I'm saying it. [30:49] >> Yeah. [30:50] >> Number five is [30:52] she's a a very amazing diplomat. [30:56] She she's known as well here in [30:57] Jerusalem Post. People know her. Yeah. [30:59] >> Know her work are familiar with her [31:01] work. She was deputy mayor of Jerusalem. [31:03] Number 12 in Israel is Eric Rubin. Eric [31:05] Rubin is an American Jew, Israeli. That [31:09] made aliyah one week after the 7th of [31:12] October. [31:12] >> Wow. [31:13] >> While there were Israelis speaking about [31:15] getting out of the country, he said, "I [31:18] saw what Hamas did to us on the 7th of [31:19] October. That's it. I'm coming to [31:22] strengthen my my people and I'm coming [31:23] to strengthen my my my country." Yes, my [31:26] country Israel. All of us. Eric Rubin [31:30] Hassan and me who is familiar with the [31:34] Jewish diaspora around the world. [31:36] >> I know the Jewish community around the [31:37] United States, around the around Canada, [31:40] around South America, around Europe. [31:43] >> I know what the Jewish community has [31:44] been suffering from rising [31:46] anti-semitism, terror supporting [31:49] attacks, being afraid of your identity, [31:52] being afraid of being a Jew. What has [31:54] the government done wrong to to to get [31:58] to the situation where you know there's [31:59] so much criticism about our internet? [32:01] >> This is this is a neglect of of [32:03] different governments. [32:04] >> Mhm. Some of the governments were under [32:06] BB a government even under Bennett. All [32:09] of that there was a misunderstanding to [32:11] the situation. They did not saw what [32:14] Qatar is doing and what Jazzer is doing [32:16] and what the radical immigrants who came [32:19] from the Middle East and flood Europe [32:22] and flood USA and they and and instead [32:25] of looking at it as literally as a [32:28] battlefield but it's the eighth front. [32:30] >> Yeah. which is the propaganda and the PR [32:33] and the husb whatever you want to call [32:35] it and we were we were asleep there. [32:38] >> Yeah. [32:38] >> We did not give the backing. We did not [32:40] give the the backing to the Jewish [32:43] community. [32:44] >> Did you feel like you you know before [32:45] you got into politics did you feel like [32:47] you were like having to be such a of an [32:50] advocate for Israel because we weren't [32:52] the country wasn't doing enough or [32:55] >> Unfortunately Unfortunately you are [32:58] right. Well, right now we don't have a [33:00] public diplomacy ministry at all because [33:02] it was shut down actually right before [33:04] October 7th pretty much. So, you know, [33:07] in a government where that you your [33:09] party is part of, would you want to open [33:10] another ministry like that? [33:12] >> I already declared it. I am going to be [33:14] the next husband [33:16] because of anti-Israeli propaganda, [33:19] terrorist supporters, pro Palestinians. [33:21] The IDF was shut down in multiple [33:24] operations. operation that could have [33:26] helped our security, the Israeli [33:28] citizens security and could have [33:30] probably avoided casualties from our [33:32] side. [33:33] >> Yeah. [33:34] >> And because of the fact that the [33:35] propaganda, the anti-Israeli propaganda [33:37] works so good, we got stopped. My [33:40] mission as a minister of husband [33:48] minister. Why? Because I want all the [33:52] shrapnels come to us. I want to deal [33:54] with it and I promise you the second I [33:57] am the minister of [33:59] every week I will have a press [34:01] conference in Hebrew for Israel to [34:03] explain to them about what's happening [34:05] in Arabic for the Arab world to also [34:08] attack every lie they lied about us in [34:10] that in that week and to the western [34:11] world in English because I want to show [34:13] the hypocrite world of how they are [34:16] acting when it comes to us and how [34:18] they're acting when it comes to the [34:19] other to the rest of the world and how [34:21] they they're talking about only one side [34:23] of the story with no facts and the other [34:26] side with the facts are completely [34:27] ignored. I'm not going to allow that. [34:29] Every week I'm going to do that press [34:30] conference in three different languages. [34:32] Every day, every day I'm going to attack [34:35] everyone who lies and insight against [34:38] Israel. And in the next 100 days, I have [34:40] a program that I'm going to reveal next [34:42] week by the way, [34:44] >> which is what we're going to do in the [34:45] first 100 days in office. [34:48] >> The 12 point or 12step. have a plan of [34:51] >> absolutely and it's going to be an [34:53] unbelievable plan to shorten the gap [34:57] between what's going on with the [34:58] anti-Israel people to where we should be [35:02] in order for us to fight in that arena. [35:04] Right now, we are there but with no [35:06] tools. Meanwhile, our enemy is with [35:08] heavy arm and we're like with [35:10] flip-flops. [35:11] >> So, when you set a plan for the next [35:13] government, I do need to ask about an [35:16] October 7th probe. Yep. because I wanted [35:19] to understand do you guys support a [35:20] state official state commission of [35:22] inquiry? Um, you mean you mean? Yeah. [35:25] So, [35:26] >> what's your stance on it and doing a [35:28] probe into, you know, especially because [35:29] you're a party that's coming in with [35:30] like all new people, right? So, how are [35:33] we gonna we've never probed who's going [35:35] to who was accountable, especially [35:36] government failures. [35:37] >> You're absolutely right. And what I said [35:38] is before when I said about the [35:40] coalition opposition is exactly about [35:42] that. I believe that the coalition and [35:44] the opposition has responsibility each [35:47] one different percentage. But then the [35:50] uh uh uh uh um but but we need to [35:53] investigate that. And in order for us to [35:55] investigate that, we need the [35:59] involves [laughter] the help me up with [36:01] state commission of inquiry. [36:08] >> Is the state commission of inquiry. All [36:09] right. Which is with the high court [36:11] appointment. [36:12] >> Exactly. But [36:12] >> which is what is the contentious matter [36:14] >> and and and the and the other and the [36:16] other side is saying we want uh uh a [36:19] national yes [36:21] in [36:22] >> meaning without the without involving [36:24] the jud because of the whole conflict [36:26] with the judicial jur judiciary. [36:29] >> Now here's the thing is has a solution [36:35] exactly for this. We saw that the people [36:38] are divided. [36:39] >> Yeah. Some are saying that if we go to [36:42] this [36:46] um then half of the people won't believe [36:49] it [36:49] >> and if we go to the other one then half [36:51] of the other people won't believe it. [36:53] Okay. [36:54] >> Right. [36:55] >> Is with binar number four in Israel [37:00] who is a lawyer uh coming from the [37:02] inside of the official justice system. [37:07] He said we have a better solution and [37:09] the solution is based on the model of [37:12] how we're picking our president. Today [37:14] we pick our president by any Israeli can [37:17] nominate himself. He needs a 10 [37:19] signatures from 10 different members of [37:21] Knesset. [37:22] >> Yeah. [37:23] >> Also members of Kesset can gather [37:25] together and nominate someone. We want [37:28] to do the same pattern on electing the [37:30] judges that are going to be the head of [37:33] that e commission. Okay. [37:36] >> Right. [37:37] >> How we going to do it? [37:40] Let's say four judges managed to get 10 [37:44] signatures from 10 different members of [37:46] Kesset or more and they are now [37:48] nominated to become the judges of that [37:52] commission. [37:53] >> Yeah. [37:54] >> The judge that gets the most votes in a [37:56] a a secret vote, okay? [37:59] >> He will be the head of the commission. [38:01] The runner, the second judge with the [38:03] second numbers of vote, he will be his [38:06] deputy, [38:07] >> right? [38:07] >> Both of them needs to agree on the [38:10] representatives. Okay. [38:12] >> Who will be doing the actual probe? [38:13] >> No, no, no. Who are the nine members of [38:15] the commission? E. Oh yeah. [38:19] >> So basically we have two judges. Let's [38:21] say one was picked by the opposition and [38:23] one was picked by the coalition. Okay. [38:25] And the coalition obviously is the head [38:26] of the commission, right? [38:28] >> Yeah. The third one is actually picked [38:33] by the municipalities that were affected [38:36] and got hurt in the on the in on the 7th [38:39] of October which is uh Aza isol [38:45] they will pick their representatives and [38:47] he's going to be the third member of [38:48] that commission. [38:49] >> Okay. [38:50] >> Right. [38:51] >> If the two judges agrees there is no [38:54] need for his vote. If the two judges do [38:56] not agree, he's going to be the decisive [38:59] vote. Who are next in in that [39:02] commission? You have a representative [39:05] from the intelligent, from the army and [39:08] from the uh the uh uh office that [39:12] actually criticized Israel. And then you [39:13] have another one from what we call the [39:16] families that got hurt from the 7th of [39:18] October, civilian families. And then the [39:20] families that got hurt from the 7th of [39:21] October, army families, right? and then [39:23] as well from the hostage families. All [39:26] of this, okay, all the nine members will [39:29] be elected by the two judges and those [39:31] two judges if they do not come to an [39:33] agreement between them, the decisive [39:35] votes will go to the representatives of [39:37] the municipality that got hit on the 7th [39:39] of October. [39:40] This way you will eventually bring the [39:43] trust of the people and this way you [39:46] will get the fact that everyone will be [39:50] asked and summoned to the commission. [39:53] >> So I just have to ask a question going a [39:55] little back to the politics but I think [39:57] it's really important. Uh we can't [39:59] ignore the fact that Alfur Winter did [40:00] say that he backed um uh Netanyahu as [40:03] the prime ministerial you know to be [40:05] prime minister and as the leading [40:07] >> and by the way we stopped there because [40:08] we didn't continue to talk about the [40:10] games of the political seats and you're [40:13] right but the thing is but the thing is [40:15] that if you watch on the um let's say [40:17] I've already spoken about the uh joint [40:20] list and then Abbas there's another [40:22] party that I didn't speak about which I [40:24] have a huge gap with them which is the [40:26] Democrat party. Okay. For instance, [40:28] number six in the Democrat party is [40:29] Gabilaskki. She is the lawyer that [40:32] protected [40:34] the terrorists. Now, I'm going to be [40:36] here a little bit with a class and I'm [40:39] not going to curse like I usually curse [40:42] when I say the name Tamimi, but anyone [40:46] who knows Ysef Hadad and knows my work. [40:49] There's no way I'm cooperating with [40:51] someone who protected and there's no way [40:53] that I'm going to cooperate with a [40:54] leader who said and I know I know he [40:56] said that the government is Israel want [40:58] to kill or killing [41:01] innocent babies but the world knows [41:03] exactly what he meant when he said that [41:04] >> operate with Bengir. So [41:07] the qu the to answer that is actually [41:10] yes with yes and [41:13] >> okay just to finish with [41:18] for instance when he said a sentence [41:20] like this you do understand that the [41:22] whole world doesn't say oh well you know [41:24] what he said about the government [41:26] because for them they know that the [41:27] government sends the army so for the [41:29] whole world it was the army that kills [41:30] babies as a hobby and that's what was [41:32] presented in the world I'm going to [41:35] fight this. I'm going to fight this as a [41:36] as a husband minister. [41:38] >> Now, let's go back to Benville because [41:40] based on that based on the fact that I [41:42] can't sit with the Democrats and I can't [41:44] sit with the Mans Abbas and certainly [41:46] with the joint list, it doesn't matter [41:48] how you make that there is no option. [41:51] Yeah. [41:52] >> No option, [41:53] >> right? [41:54] >> Whatsoever. add to the fact that [41:56] unfortunately I didn't even got a call [41:58] until today from Eizenot apologizing for [42:02] comparing me to Mas Abbas just because [42:03] both of us are Arabs. [42:05] >> This is pure racism. And if he was and [42:08] if he and if he didn't mean it, okay, [42:10] pick up the phone, call me, tell me you [42:13] didn't mean it like this because until [42:15] today, as far as I concern, that's a [42:18] pure racism to to to to compare me to [42:21] someone just because that we have the [42:22] same identity. So there you wouldn't go [42:24] in a government with Eisenhot if [42:26] Eisenhot is the [42:27] >> No, but but but it's not only that. It's [42:29] there's no possibility in terms of the [42:30] seats. Look at it. No matter how you [42:33] make [42:33] >> because of the Arab party [42:34] >> Arab parties and the Democrats you no [42:36] way there's no matter how you going to [42:38] take the sum up it's not going to work. [42:40] Now with Banger for the for the question [42:42] with Banger. [42:43] >> Yeah. [42:43] >> Here's the thing. Take for instance [42:46] the idea when he went and met the [42:49] flutila [42:51] terror supporters who were captured by [42:53] the IDF and brought to Israel. Remember [42:55] that? [42:55] >> Yeah. [42:56] >> I would have done the same thing. But I [42:59] agree on the target. I don't agree on [43:00] the way. And actually I think that his [43:02] way [43:03] >> huge that was a huge you know [43:05] internationally condemned even let me [43:08] express myself. I'm going to I'm going [43:10] to I'm going to show you how how of a [43:12] criticized I'm going to be towards [43:14] Benville. Allow me to express myself. [43:16] I'm telling you it was a disaster. [43:20] I started by saying I agree on the [43:23] target. I don't agree on the way at all. [43:25] And in fact, I criticize the way because [43:28] what I would have done as a minister of [43:32] earlier, I would know that it would take [43:34] them about a month and a half or two [43:36] months to arrive to the borders of [43:38] Israel, the sea border, and where [43:40] they're going to be captured. So, I have [43:42] two months to prepare. And since I'm [43:44] going to take my job very very seriously [43:46] and the office that I'm going to build [43:47] is going to be a main office. [43:49] >> Yeah. [43:50] >> In Israel, [43:51] >> I will allocate budget and build a [43:53] hunger which which is a which is a sort [43:56] of a huge improvised house. Yeah. [44:00] >> With a 360 lead screen. [44:02] >> Wow. [44:03] >> With live cameras hidden. Okay. And once [44:08] we bring the terror supporters because [44:10] majority of them were terrorist [44:12] supporters with direct contacts with [44:14] Hamas in Europe and once we capture them [44:17] we bring them to that place with only [44:20] Israeli flags meanwhile on the screen. [44:22] Okay. [44:23] >> Yeah. sitting down there and then an IDF [44:25] representative will come give them water [44:28] and snack [44:30] and then while they're eating [44:34] we shift and they will watch every [44:38] single video from the 7th of October [44:41] while we're broadcasting it live on air [44:44] to the whole world anyone who wants to [44:46] go to the link they can watch the [44:47] Futella members watching those videos [44:50] and they can watch their reactions even [44:52] if the rea action is like this or like [44:55] this. It's a great reaction to show [44:58] those hypocrites that they're not [45:00] willing to see the atrocities that Hamas [45:01] did. And after 45 minutes of watching [45:04] those atrocities, then and only then I [45:07] come in. And I come in not to put their [45:10] heads down and to shout at them and to [45:13] humiliate them. The humiliation is [45:15] already happening [45:17] >> for being in Israel, drinking an Israeli [45:19] water, drinking or eating an Israeli [45:21] snack, watching forced to be watched the [45:24] horrific scenes from the 7th of October. [45:27] All this that's what I want them to see [45:29] and then I will come and start a [45:30] conversation with them and they're going [45:32] to shout and curse and I'm going to tell [45:33] them exactly what I think. That's the [45:35] path that I take to make that goal with [45:38] >> Ben. This is why I believe that because [45:40] we have a shared goal, I can affect [45:42] because I'm going to be very close to [45:43] the table. [45:44] >> You want a broad Zionist government. [45:46] >> I I the listen the idea eventually is to [45:49] hear what Netanyahu also wants because [45:52] everybody is talking about Guush and and [45:53] Goose there and Goose there and we're [45:54] saying we are the right camp. But then [45:56] Netanyahu said something really [45:57] interesting. He said I will work to make [46:00] sure that we will have a bigger [46:04] right-wing government. [46:05] >> Right? I asked what does that mean? [46:09] What does that mean? Now I assume unless [46:13] BB state otherwise I assume he's [46:15] speaking about maybe Bennett or speaking [46:17] about maybe you got to ask him. [46:19] >> Yeah. [46:20] >> But as far as as we concerned I'm [46:21] Israel. Our mission is very simple. [46:24] Enter [46:26] being as close as possible to the table [46:28] to make those decision and affect those [46:30] decision. Enter a full new spirit to [46:33] change whatever happened. make sure that [46:36] over winter is the next minister of [46:37] defense to stop with the uh way of uh [46:43] living in terms of security and finally [46:46] just finish the job. Finish the job. [46:50] >> If I could just ask my last question. [46:51] >> Yes, please. [46:52] >> You know, you say you want to come in as [46:54] a new spirit and new new party, new [46:56] faces, but you also, you know, are [46:59] supporting Prime Minister Benjamin [47:01] Netanyahu, who was the prime minister. [47:02] What if it was the October 7th What if [47:05] it was the opposite? [47:05] >> Eisenhod, let's say, was not the prime [47:07] minister at the time, right? So, how can [47:09] how can the two things be true at the [47:11] same [47:11] >> because we are looking about a bigger [47:13] problem here. You're talking about the [47:15] 7th of October and everybody should be [47:17] investigated for the 7th of October to [47:19] understand who is responsible, but we're [47:21] not talking about just the 7th of [47:23] October. We're speaking about years of [47:25] years of years of doing the same thing [47:28] and seeing the same things and not [47:30] changing anything. Gadi Isizukot was the [47:32] chief of staff of the army from 2015 [47:34] 2019. Hamas started planning their 7th [47:37] of October on 2016. Now does that mean [47:40] that Isaac is responsible for the 7th of [47:42] October? No, I don't say that. Does that [47:44] mean that the commission should [47:46] investigate? Of course they should. But [47:49] was Bennett BB and the rest part of that [47:53] ideology of like let's give them Qatari [47:56] money. Let's bring them to work here. [47:59] Let's make sure they have better life so [48:00] we they can leave us alone. And we saw [48:03] what happened. I'm speaking about this. [48:05] There's no one new. There's no one new [48:07] is not new. [48:10] >> Netanyahu is not new. And that is [48:12] absolutely and this is and this is [48:14] exactly why I said all the 120 should go [48:17] home. But while you're speaking about [48:19] that, Eisenot is getting approximately 1 [48:22] million votes. Netanyahu is getting [48:24] approximately 1 million. [48:25] >> Go with Eisenard who's also right. [48:28] Yeah. [48:30] You understood the uh the chair me [48:33] >> that everyone you're saying everyone [48:34] holds like [48:35] >> accountability. [48:36] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But not only that [48:38] about a half an hour ago [48:40] play with me the game of the seats. [48:42] Okay. Eisenot fine. So he will bring [48:46] Bennett and he will bring Liberman and [48:49] let's say us. Okay. And then what? It's [48:52] not even 48 50 seats. Okay. But [48:56] regardless to that, regardless to that, [48:58] okay, you're talking about someone who [49:01] said that offer Vintel cannot be in his [49:03] government a defense minister. You're [49:06] talking about someone that compared me [49:07] to Mas Abbas because both of us are [49:09] Arabs. [49:10] >> And the fact is that we are not [49:12] attacking someone by his personal [49:15] identity because Eisen could Eisen [49:17] sacrificed a lot. his son [49:20] >> son [49:21] >> he he he he he he he he he worked for [49:24] the for the Israeli people served the [49:26] Israeli people I just have a gap with [49:28] him in ideology [49:29] >> and I'm allowed to have that gap in [49:31] ideology and then I have also a gap with [49:34] Bangville but I can affect Bangville [49:36] because the ideology camp is smaller the [49:40] goals are the same the path and the way [49:42] is completely different and I believe [49:44] that I can affect the gap sorry affect [49:47] the way much better than if I was with [49:50] someone who doesn't differentiate [49:52] between an Arab to an Arab or with [49:54] someone that is willing to say take for [49:55] instance liber willing to say to Gulan [49:59] shut up because you're doing that damage [50:01] and we need you in the government so I [50:03] need you to shut up come on this is no [50:06] ideology here so all I'm saying is look [50:09] at the map if it was up to me all the [50:13] 120 home let's bring a full new 120 but [50:16] the idea is realistic [50:18] Exactly. Exactly. So I'm acting only [50:21] based on what's going on and based on [50:23] the fact that we are a rightwing Zionist [50:26] patriot party. [50:28] >> Thank you so much. [50:30] >> Thank you for having me. [50:30] >> Thank you for being here. [music]
