Transcript [00:00] Somebody wrote to me yesterday and said, [00:02] "Uh, Glenn, the Tea Party did nothing." [00:04] Blah, blah, blah. And I thought, "No, [00:06] no, the Tea Party did a lot. The Tea [00:08] Party was the beginning of Donald Trump [00:11] and getting there." And then he took it [00:13] and made it into his own thing. Um, and [00:16] he's not a Republic. He is his own [00:20] genuine counterrevolution. [00:24] >> Yes. Yeah, I believe that. I I think he [00:26] had elements of he looked at the Ron [00:28] Paul movement. He looked at the Buchanan [00:30] movement. He looked at the Tea Party, [00:32] which really didn't have a centralized [00:34] command or leader. [00:36] >> And he took what he wanted from each of [00:38] them and he rejected what he wanted. And [00:40] he made a very strategically brilliant [00:42] decision. He said for all the years he [00:44] said he was going to run, he never ran [00:46] against an incumbent Republican as did [00:49] Perau [00:51] >> and as did others, Buchanan. So he [00:54] wasn't considered an apostate that hurt [00:56] the party. He didn't run as a third [00:58] party. he saw there was no future there [01:00] and he didn't run when there was an [01:02] incumbent uh Democrat that had the [01:04] advantages. So he picked 2016 and he [01:08] picked a weak candidate. So that those [01:09] were all strategic moves. As far of his [01:12] legacy, I think it's three-fold. He [01:15] changed the Republican party into a [01:17] worker middle class party. And he did [01:20] that partly by substit [01:22] substituting racial tribalism that both [01:25] parties indulged. And he made a common [01:27] class consciousness. So we had 26% of [01:31] the black of black males, 52 54% of [01:34] Hispanic males voted for him. And I [01:36] think he was saying to them, I'm worried [01:39] about China taking your job. I'm worried [01:42] about uh [01:44] free but unfair trade. I'm worried about [01:47] your tips. I'm doing I'm not going to [01:50] get rid of social security. The black [01:52] truck driver, the white electrician, and [01:55] the Hispanic plumber have more in common [01:58] with each other than they do with their [02:00] elites in the media or academia. Does he [02:03] still have that [02:05] >> coalition or the I mean because the [02:08] Marxist I mean you know [02:09] >> it's very hard because [02:12] >> uh when I talk I live in a community [02:14] that's 95% Hispanic privately [02:18] all of them are delighted about the [02:20] deportation to take that example because [02:23] the kidney dialysis local kidney [02:25] dialysis clinic and the ER are not [02:28] they're not crowded and all of that [02:29] stuff as they were but publicly their [02:32] children are in college. It's a middle [02:34] class community now [02:36] >> and it's not popular to say that. It was [02:40] popular in 2024. So, we'll see. It [02:43] depends, I think, a lot on the next 3 [02:45] months. But he did change the parties [02:48] and he changed the Democratic party. He [02:50] the for all the trash talking and the [02:52] crudity and the tweets and the memes, he [02:55] did something. He damaged Hillary [02:58] Clinton in a way she never recovered. He [03:00] damaged Barack Obama. He damaged all of [03:03] those people became I mean they they [03:05] lost their mind and with that loss of [03:08] mind they changed that party into a [03:10] Islamicist [03:12] socialist radical party. [03:14] >> Does that last you know America [03:16] >> I don't think that I I don't think that [03:18] that I think it's exactly like 1972 when [03:21] they look back at 68 and they said [03:23] Humphrey was an old fddy duddy. actually [03:26] he he came within 100,000 votes of [03:28] beating Nixon [03:29] >> and and the proper course would have [03:31] been to follow his get it get a little [03:33] bit more moderate than Humphrey but they [03:35] got radical with McGovern and he [03:37] destroyed the party and it was I think [03:40] it was a large second largest popular [03:42] vote landslide in history in 72 and then [03:45] they said basically we've got to get go [03:48] back and get a president nominee that [03:50] has a southern accent so they had Carter [03:53] wasn't that conservative But they seemed [03:56] like it was. And then they went with [03:57] Clinton and then they went with Gore and [03:59] that was back trending in those days to [04:03] the middle. And I think they'll have to [04:05] do that cuz I don't think they're going [04:06] to win if they continue in [04:08] >> How do they get how do they get these [04:10] people out? I mean there's some really [04:13] dangerous I mean really literally [04:15] Islamist literally Marxists. [04:17] >> Yes. [04:18] >> How do you get them out? [04:20] Well, they have to change, Glenn, [04:21] because if you look at the DSA agenda [04:24] and you look what the Democratic Party [04:26] has been doing the last five years, I [04:29] don't see that much difference. They [04:31] everybody says this, you know, pack the [04:33] court, uh, two new states in the [04:35] filibuster, destroy the electoral [04:37] college, defund def, same thing. All [04:40] these guys came in and now they're even [04:42] admitting it because they're trying to [04:44] mainstream El and Telerico. All they did [04:47] was say, "Well, you're Pelosi, Schumer, [04:50] you're old fuddy duddies. We need [04:52] youthful people that can relate to young [04:54] people, especially the downwardly [04:56] mobile, mostly white urban um people [05:00] with degrees and they're overeducated in [05:02] a sense, and they they don't they don't [05:04] feel they're compensated according to [05:06] their genius, they think." And they got [05:08] all of those people. That's who the [05:10] democratic social, but the the agenda [05:12] wasn't different. The other thing he did [05:14] very quickly [05:16] domestically [05:18] uh with the tax reductions and the [05:21] deregulation [05:23] and we talked about all the other things [05:25] he did the border d they were wonderful [05:27] but he basically said to us industry [05:31] especially Silicon Valley he said you [05:33] don't like me I don't like you but I'm [05:35] not going to micromanage you I'm going [05:37] to be a nationalist just like FDR [05:40] Henry Kaiser Henry Ford they didn't like [05:42] FDR, but he let them produce and make a [05:45] profit and we won World War II. So Trump [05:48] is saying, "I will protect you from [05:50] Canada's sir charges. I will protect you [05:52] from censorship, but you've got to help [05:55] me." And when you look at what's [05:57] happened on if you look at the 10 top [06:00] companies in AI, [06:02] uh, software, digital media, [06:05] bioengineering, [06:07] space launches, satellite, we're eight [06:10] or nine out of the top 10 worldwide. [06:12] It's just a whole different world than [06:13] what we were told would happen by this [06:15] period 10 years ago. We have $31 [06:18] trillion in GDP. China that has four [06:22] times our population is only 21. Europe [06:25] was supposed to pass us. They said that [06:27] we had the same GDP in 2001 and they [06:30] said in 20 years we will be failing and [06:33] that they have a 100 million more people [06:35] but they have 10 trillion less GDP. [06:38] And Canada used to be pretty close to [06:40] us. Their per capita GDP is the lowest [06:44] growth of the industrialized world and [06:46] their per capita GDP income if you [06:50] divide it by population. They're $40,000 [06:53] each person less poor than we are. So [06:56] there's been a very quiet revolution [06:58] that we're are starting to in space and [07:01] software and AI. We're starting to [07:03] dominate. [07:04] >> It's why the president I I think you [07:06] know it's why the president is focusing [07:09] on all of this. You know, it's, you [07:11] know, when you're a when you are wildly [07:14] in debt as a human being, you have two [07:16] ways to, you mean sell, get out of that [07:19] debt. [07:20] >> Um, but you know, also you got to get [07:22] another job to pay that. Well, there's [07:24] no other job. The job that's on the [07:26] horizon [07:27] >> is AI. It's energy and AI. And that's [07:31] why he's dominating because he knows [07:34] that's the only way if you could ever [07:36] pay this debt off. That's the only way [07:37] you have a chance of surviving, [07:41] thriving, and also being able to work [07:43] out the debt is to own those two things [07:46] because that's where all the money in [07:48] the future is going to be. [07:49] >> Yeah, I think that's exactly why he's so [07:51] adamant that he's going to continue with [07:53] AI and energy development and also [07:57] >> money from terror. [07:58] >> Does any of this stuff last though? When [08:02] he leaves, does it last? [08:04] >> Yeah, I think it does. I I really do [08:06] because I think in a year from now the [08:08] country is going to be very prosperous [08:11] and uh they're going to they're going to [08:15] criticize it if there's in 2029 [08:19] if there's a postpresidential picture [08:22] and we have George HW Bush uh George W. [08:25] Bush and we have Barack Obama, Bill [08:27] Clinton, even if Joe Biden all of them [08:30] there won't be Donald Trump invited. He [08:33] won't be invited. No, [08:34] >> he he will be despised for a short term, [08:37] maybe 5 years. But historically, [08:41] he can't deny what he's he's done. And [08:43] we haven't even you foreign policy. He [08:45] remade, as I said, the Western [08:46] Hemisphere. [08:48] >> He remade NATO. NATO is a completely [08:50] different organization. [08:52] >> He he told me once when when he was [08:54] running, he said, "Glenn, I want to be [08:55] remembered [08:56] >> alongside George Washington and Abraham [08:58] Lincoln." And I didn't say this. I just [09:00] thought to myself, "Well, there there's [09:01] there's a Donald Trump goal for you. [09:02] just shoot for the biggest. Um, and I [09:06] thought, you know, well, good luck. Good [09:08] luck. A lot of people would like to be [09:10] in that category. I think he is going to [09:12] be in that cate. He won't be for 10 [09:15] years, but if these things hold, he is [09:19] in that category. He has possibly saved [09:23] the republic for the for the next 100 [09:26] years. It it is transforming, but it is [09:30] closer to America than any other idea [09:34] that anybody else had. And he's almost [09:36] done it single-handedly. [09:38] >> He has. And that explains I try to say [09:40] that in the book and that explains why [09:43] they conducted probably the worst abuse [09:46] of our jurist prudence in our history [09:48] with the four criminal and the one Gene [09:52] Carol lawfare. The rating of Marlago. [09:55] trying to get him off 25 state ballots. [09:58] Uh the two impeachments, the trial when [10:01] he was a private citizen, the only [10:02] president in history the Secret Service [10:04] is fired at a potential assassin on four [10:08] different occasions [10:09] >> and the ver the vuperation [10:12] Kathy Griffith, Robert Diero, Snoop [10:15] Dogg, we're going to kill him, we're [10:16] going to stab him, we're going to behead [10:17] him, we're going to burn him up, we're [10:19] going to blow him up the White House. [10:21] That all reflects what he's trying to [10:23] do. He's it's kind of like Andrew [10:26] Jackson, the aristocracy, the Adams and [10:30] even the old Virginia aristocracy [10:33] that produced such great presidents. But [10:36] by the time Jackson in the 18 late [10:39] 1820s, there was a whole new world and [10:42] he knew it and they despised him. They [10:44] hated him and he did a lot of things [10:46] that were very controversial and some [10:48] that were regrettable. But yeah, [10:51] >> he's he's still a transaive [10:55] figure and he changed the culture and he [10:57] and I don't think anybody up to that [10:59] time had been hated as much as Andrew [11:00] Jackson. [11:01] >> So [11:02] >> and I think Trump is sort of the same [11:04] tragic figure. He reminds me as I've [11:07] said in the book of a I I grew up on you [11:11] know you did too Glenn the [11:13] >> westerns [11:14] >> Shane. Yes. the searchers mag there's [11:16] always a sense of a paralysis or or [11:20] crisis in a community whether it's the [11:22] bandidos or the cattle barons or the [11:24] lost girl or native American attacks and [11:27] they brought they draw on somebody who [11:30] comes out comes from nowhere [11:33] >> and he has a certain set of skills and [11:35] in their dire need they're happy to [11:38] employ him. He settles the problem and [11:41] then he gives them a margin of error and [11:43] say everything's going pretty well. Um I [11:46] think it's time for you to leave. I [11:47] can't believe we ever had you in here. [11:49] You I don't approve of what you did even [11:52] though they were the benefici and then [11:53] you know Shane rides off or the [11:55] Magnificent Seven say well they're glad [11:57] to see us go. And that that comes out of [12:00] a a long tradition that predated the [12:03] western and Greek tragedy has a lot of [12:05] characters that way. And I think Trump [12:08] knew that, that he knew that to get [12:10] things done, he adopted something that [12:13] was innate to him anyway, a very tough [12:17] way of talking. I don't care. Uh, and I [12:21] don't care what they say about me, but [12:23] I'm going to cut through. I do not want [12:25] these Washington. [12:26] >> I've never seen anybody like him because [12:27] he really doesn't care.
