Transcript [00:00] This episode is brought to you by [00:01] Cardiff, America's favorite small [00:02] business lender with over 12 billion [00:03] funded since 2004. Plan under three [00:05] minutes for same day funding up to [00:06] 500,000 at cardiff.co/nolles. [00:10] The Democrats spring their big October [00:12] surprise of the 2026 midterm elections. [00:15] It involves male prostitutes and a [00:17] Republican senator and it targets [00:21] a dead guy. That's apparently the best [00:23] they have. I feel like Democrats should [00:25] have better stuff this year. You got [00:27] this unpopular war, rising gas prices, [00:29] but no, they are just calling a dead guy [00:33] gay. Then Democrat Congress lady Ilhan [00:36] Omar is apparently not actually Ilhan [00:39] Omar. [00:41] That this investigation just keeps [00:43] deepening. They say, "Well, maybe she [00:45] married her brother. Her husband is not [00:46] really her husband." And oh, actually, [00:48] maybe her citizenship was not [00:49] legitimate. Now, it turns out that's not [00:50] even her name. A new federal [00:53] investigation reveals that the [00:55] legislature representing al-Shabaab is [00:57] hiding even more than we previously [00:59] thought. And Abdul Alsed squirms over [01:02] his connections to the Muslim [01:03] Brotherhood in the final stretch of the [01:06] midterms. I'm Michael Nullles. This is [01:07] the Michael Nolles show. [01:26] getting squirly out there. All the polls [01:29] are essentially tied. They're within the [01:31] margin of error. President Trump is now [01:33] pointing out that Iran is doing [01:34] everything it can to drive up oil prices [01:37] to inflict pain on Republicans. We will [01:40] discuss how it shakes out with this [01:43] week's Friend Friday guest, Andrew [01:46] Claven, who is the news of the day [01:49] because President Trump has a new [01:52] favorite book. President Trump has just [01:54] posted, pull it up on Truth Social. New [01:57] York Times best-selling author Andrew [01:58] Claven has just written a great new [02:00] book, Find Me Nowhere. It's fantastic. [02:03] Get it now. President Donald J. Trump. [02:08] Drew, welcome to the presidentially [02:11] endorsed book club. It's great to have [02:13] you here. [02:14] >> Thank you very much. This is the second [02:16] Republican president in a row who has [02:18] been my fan, and I'm just deeply [02:20] honored. And I feel that get it now is [02:22] is tantamount to an executive order. I [02:24] feel that this is a command. This is now [02:26] a legal obligation of every patriotic [02:28] American to go out and buy Find Me [02:30] Nowhere. By the way, with a Congress [02:32] that can't do anything, the executive [02:34] order is actually the highest form of [02:36] the law. [02:37] >> Exactly. Exactly. [02:39] >> You have to go get the book Find Me [02:41] Nowhere. I have to admit, I felt a [02:44] twinge of sadness when I saw this post [02:46] from the president. Not for you, not for [02:48] me, but for our colleagues, Ben Shapiro [02:51] and Matt Walsh, because now they're the [02:53] only ones here who have not had a book [02:54] endorsed on social media by President [02:57] Trump. It's a it's a shame, but you [02:59] know, virtue has its own rewards. I'm [03:01] sure. I don't I don't know what they [03:02] are, but there must be some. And I'm [03:04] sure Ben and Matt have, you know, some [03:06] kind of consolation, possibly drink, [03:08] heav he heavily drinking, something like [03:10] that. And I, you know, I feel I feel for [03:12] them, but I'm sure that they can handle [03:13] it uh with some kind of, you know, drug [03:16] induced uh, you know, serenity. And I [03:19] think, you know, look, it's you and me. [03:21] We're the people who attract the the [03:23] highest office, the most powerful people [03:25] in the world to read our books and [03:27] endorse our books. And it was a little [03:28] easier with you because you had no words [03:30] in your books. But you know that [03:32] >> he he he was actually able to endorse my [03:34] book before reading it. Uh whereas in in [03:38] your case, this book does have words. It [03:40] has pages and chapters and it is doing [03:42] very very well. If I'm right, this is [03:44] one of the Cameron Winter stories. And [03:46] uh because the American right doesn't [03:49] produce any art ever or anything at [03:52] least rising to a proper definition of [03:54] art, uh maybe look, I don't mean to [03:56] diminish your accomplishment, but since [03:58] you are possibly the only conservative [04:00] artist in the country, then you know, it [04:02] was kind of a gimme, wasn't it? [04:03] >> Yeah. You know, selling selling art, [04:05] selling culture to conservatives is like [04:07] selling ice boxes to people who really [04:09] need ice boxes but don't know it, you [04:11] know. So it's always it's always a [04:14] little difficult but these books let's [04:17] see this is the sixth one. I think four [04:19] of them have been bestsellers. Uh so [04:21] they've done really well and I I think [04:24] you know I did I purposely went back to [04:26] the mystery form that I started out with [04:29] to sort of bring all the stuff that I've [04:31] learned over my lifetime and this is I I [04:34] think it's like a really big [04:35] accomplishment. I think these books I [04:36] just finished the one after this which [04:38] may be the last one. Uh, and I I just [04:40] think this series this series is the [04:43] history of a guy trying to become go [04:45] from being a bad guy to a good guy in a [04:47] country that has no establishment, you [04:50] know, in an America that has no [04:52] governments we can trust, no news that [04:55] we can believe. [04:56] >> Total work of fiction. [04:57] >> Yeah, it's a total work of fiction. So, [04:58] it's actually like a cultural history of [05:00] the last 20 years. And I just want to [05:02] say to you because I know you it's very [05:04] hard to get you of all people to read [05:06] fiction but I just want to say there is [05:08] the central book in your life is a work [05:10] of fiction the divine comedy and you [05:12] know obviously a beautiful imagination [05:15] of you know the afterlife but a [05:18] beautiful imagination of America is also [05:20] you know can give you the same kind of [05:22] wisdom about this subject. So I I expect [05:24] to you to get back to me with a full [05:25] book report. It's the president has [05:27] commanded you know he didn't say please [05:29] if you would get it now. He said, "Get [05:31] it now." I think that's, you know, we [05:32] don't need the Supreme Court to [05:33] interpret that. [05:34] >> And I think there's an implicit threat [05:35] of violence there if you don't if you [05:37] don't go get it. Yes. No, you're you're [05:39] right. And I'm I'm example a I'm exhibit [05:42] A when it comes to conservative [05:44] Philistines because I generally don't [05:46] read fiction. I I guess I have read a [05:48] lot of fiction because people have [05:50] whipped me into doing it at school and [05:52] for work and things like that. And then [05:54] every time I read some great novel, I [05:55] think, wow, this has expanded my [05:57] universe, the cosmos for me. I see life [06:00] differently now. That was a really [06:01] edifying experience. Never doing that [06:03] again. [06:05] >> Was once. No, that's enough. [06:06] >> You know, you're like an alcoholic [06:08] friend I had who once I talked him into [06:09] giving up alcohol for 90 days. His life [06:11] was absolutely transformed. Completely [06:14] transformed. You know, got a girlfriend, [06:15] lost all the bad friends, made good [06:17] friends, lost weight, and 90 days were [06:19] up and he started drinking again. That's [06:21] the way that's the way you treat [06:23] fiction. It changes your life. It [06:24] broadens your mind. It deepens your [06:26] heart. And then stop doing it. Don't do [06:28] Yeah, true. Mama didn't raise no [06:29] quitter, so I you know, if I'm getting [06:31] on the wagon for 90 days, I got it. I [06:34] The best part is hopping back off, you [06:35] know, and starting it all up again. So, [06:38] uh, this is a good sign for the culture. [06:41] Uh, the midterm elections are kind of a [06:44] would seem to me to be kind of a bad [06:45] sign for the culture. We'll get into the [06:47] polls and some of the races Elsa and [06:49] Calerico and all the rest. But now I've [06:52] got another good sign for the culture, [06:54] which is I don't know if you saw this [06:56] yesterday, speaking of works of fiction, [06:58] but the the Democrats led by Chen Yuger [07:01] of the Young Turks came out with their [07:03] own work of art, which was the big [07:04] October surprise. They were teasing it [07:06] for a day or two. They said, "A a [07:08] Republican senator has been caught. We [07:11] got him dead to rights with male [07:13] prostitutes." And the minute that they [07:15] started teasing it, everyone said, "What [07:17] is this? A thing on Lindsey Graham who's [07:18] dead?" And you doing a Lindsey Graham [07:20] thing. And sure enough, they said, "We [07:22] caught Lindsy Graham." Now, I watched [07:26] all not every minute, but I because I [07:28] skipped over some of the particularly [07:29] nauseating descriptions from the male [07:32] prostitutes, but I I watched most of the [07:35] movie. Uh here is just a here is just a [07:38] little taste of what you can get from [07:40] this shocking expose put out by the [07:43] libs. [07:45] >> And if you vote for Darling Grum, she's [07:47] not going to represent her constituents. [07:49] You are giving her power just to work [07:52] for someone else. She is not going to [07:55] work for you. She's just a figure in a [07:59] power structure and she's a pawn. Your [08:01] gas prices are high because of policies [08:04] that people like Senator Graham were [08:05] supporting while they were paying people [08:07] like me for sex. Does that make you mad? [08:11] Does that make America mad? Is that what [08:14] your elected officials are supposed to [08:15] be doing? [08:18] I don't think so. I think that we need [08:20] to hold elected officials to a higher [08:22] standard. [08:23] >> Okay. So, just I I really want to get [08:25] your first reaction to this, but as far [08:28] as I can tell, the big October surprise [08:30] is [08:30] >> that a a few male hookers are accusing a [08:36] dead guy of a bunch of unfalsifiable [08:39] claims and their main point is you [08:42] should vote for Democrats because gas [08:45] prices are high. I have, you know, a lot [08:48] of conspiracy theories on the right now [08:49] about all sort all sorts of stuff or the [08:52] Jews, mostly the Jews, but about all [08:54] sorts of other stuff, too. And I think I [08:56] my conspiracy theory, but maybe the most [08:58] shocking one of all, having watched that [09:01] documentary, [09:02] I now think there is a chance that [09:05] Lindsey Graham was not a homosexual. Is [09:08] that is that going to get my show [09:10] cancelled? I I have to I have to say if [09:13] he wasn't the Little Mermaid bubble wand [09:16] that he carried around Disney World was [09:18] a good disguise. It was an excellent [09:19] disguise and he was but I what I liked [09:21] is the that the male homosexuals, the [09:24] homosexual prostitutes are giving us [09:26] political advice. They weren't they [09:28] weren't saying, you know, I slept with [09:29] this guy. He was a hypocrite or [09:30] whatever. They were actually telling us [09:32] why we should vote for who we should [09:34] vote for, you know. And I I'm thinking [09:36] when I want political advice, I turn to [09:38] homosexual prostitutes. That's also [09:40] known as the political class. Yeah. [09:42] >> Also known as Congress. [09:45] >> Also, aren't gay people supposed to be [09:48] great? I mean, doesn't the left tell us [09:49] that gay people are our like the the [09:51] angels of our culture? So, isn't this a [09:54] revelation that he was a Lindsay was a [09:56] wonderful [09:56] >> No, here's your this is more of your [09:58] right-wing propaganda because what you [10:00] don't understand, Drew, is one, we have [10:03] to believe prostitutes because they [10:05] would never do anything [10:07] >> prostitutes. [10:09] But but uh you specifically homosexual [10:12] prostitutes after their their supposed [10:14] client is dead. Uh what you don't [10:16] understand though is I've heard this [10:17] from a lot of conservatives. They say, [10:18] "Wait a second. The left told us gay [10:20] stuff is really really great. So [10:21] shouldn't this make us think more highly [10:22] of Lindy Graham?" But no, no, no. The [10:24] issue, Drew, is the hypocrisy. Don't you [10:27] understand? [10:27] >> The hypocrisy. A politician who is a [10:30] hypocrite is a politician. I mean, [10:33] >> I also think I don't really believe that [10:35] they care about hypocrisy because for [10:37] instance, if let's say that I came out I [10:39] mentioned this on the show yesterday. [10:40] Let's say I came out on my show and I [10:42] said, "Hey, I do not bake pies for [10:46] widows and orphans. I don't I won't do [10:48] it. I think it's wrong." But then [10:49] secretly behind the scenes I were baking [10:52] pies for widows and orphans. [10:54] >> Would that would that make me bad? Cuz [10:57] I'm a hypocrite. I said I don't do it, [10:58] but then I do it. [10:59] >> I know. It's a terrible thing. You know, [11:01] Lindsey Graham was a really good senator [11:03] and he was a voice, you know, he was not [11:05] a guy I always agreed with, but he was a [11:06] voice that we needed in the Senate. And [11:09] I I you probably don't know this because [11:10] you don't watch the news much, but the [11:12] man is dead. He's gone. He's not serving [11:14] anything, you know, and they're telling [11:16] us why we shouldn't, you know, vote for [11:18] another person who was related to him [11:20] because they're gay prostitutes. So, [11:22] they, you know, I'm sorry, this is this [11:25] is kind of what I expect. I would I [11:26] would like to say this is not what I [11:28] expect from Chenkuger, but this is [11:30] exactly what I expect from Chenuger. [11:31] Like a big fanfare for absolutely [11:34] nothing. And I'm I'm kind of the whole [11:36] midterm thing has kind of got me baffled [11:39] anyway because I understand the price of [11:40] gas is high. I get that. And it's a [11:42] burden for people. People have to drive [11:44] to work or drive for work. It's a burden [11:46] for people. So they're going to vote [11:48] for, [11:49] >> you know, jihadists. [11:51] They're going to vote for Abdel Abdul [11:53] als who won't, you know, deny the Muslim [11:56] Muslim Brotherhood. That's what they're [11:58] going to do. That this is the logic of [11:59] the American electorate. I'm getting a [12:01] little worried about our friends in the [12:02] American electorate. I'm beginning to [12:04] think that maybe our country is being [12:06] run by people who are not paying very [12:08] close attention. [12:09] >> Yeah. As Hel Man said, democracy is the [12:11] theory that the common man knows what he [12:12] wants and deserves to get it good and [12:14] hard. I do I do wonder because I I'm I'm [12:17] quite concerned about the midterms and [12:19] uh we can get into as you mentioned [12:21] Abdul Al- Saiad squirming over the [12:22] Muslim Brotherhood. The the the other [12:25] point though because you as you say do [12:28] they not know that Lindsey Graham is [12:29] dead? Like why are they why are they [12:30] putting this out? I do think there's a a [12:32] minor point to this attack which is [12:36] >> most people assumed Lindsey Graham was a [12:38] homosexual. I my conspiracy theory is I [12:40] think there's a chance he wasn't, but [12:42] most people kind of assumed that about [12:44] him and didn't care. Some people didn't [12:46] like his views on war. They didn't like [12:48] his views on immigration. Uh he was very [12:51] good at being a senator. He was very [12:52] good at that at the actual job of being [12:54] a senator. He he was a leader of one of [12:58] the factions of the GOP. Okay, that's [12:59] fine. But I think the left is really [13:02] irritated that conservatives can say, [13:05] "Yeah, marriage is between a man and a [13:08] woman." Yeah, there is normative sexual [13:09] behavior and sexual ethics. Also, if [13:12] Lindsey Graham is a little bit weird, [13:13] but we agree with him on at least a fair [13:16] number of things, we don't like care [13:17] that much. It doesn't keep us up at [13:19] night. I I think it's that the the [13:21] failure to be either the Taliban or like [13:25] dancing in the streets with pride parade [13:27] with Abdul Aliad who might be in the [13:29] Taliban and in a pride parade depending [13:31] on the day of the week. Uh it's that [13:33] kind of tension that I think they really [13:36] hate about conservatives. Well, they [13:38] don't understand the fact that we can [13:40] feel that what you are doing in your [13:42] private life is none of your business. [13:44] Is none of my business. But that doesn't [13:46] make it right. You might be doing [13:47] something that's wrong, but it's still [13:49] none of my business. You're not hurting [13:50] anybody. You're not scaring the horses. [13:52] You're not breaking the law. You know, [13:53] so so what it's not it's literally not [13:56] my business. But that doesn't make it [13:58] right. So, you know, I'm frequently [14:00] talking about feminists and the fact [14:01] that they are just destroying themselves [14:03] by not getting married, by not having [14:05] kids. They're just losing the most [14:07] important part of life. But it's not my [14:09] job to tell them what to do. I'm just [14:10] telling them what I think of the way [14:11] they're living. I'm telling them why I [14:12] think they're miserable. I'm not telling [14:14] them you go out and do this, girl. You [14:15] know, they have no they have because [14:17] they think everything is required or [14:19] forbidden. The left thinks everything is [14:21] required or forbidden. So they can't [14:22] imagine people who are saying, well, [14:24] some things are wrong, but you have a [14:25] right to do them, and it's none of my [14:27] business, but I don't think you should. [14:28] You know, that's a perfectly reason. [14:30] >> Yes. You know, there are priorities in [14:33] the world and I it's kind of like the [14:34] Don Draper scene in Madmen of, you know, [14:38] uh the the young adman is just kind of [14:41] saying, "You know what? I really think [14:42] of you." Blah blah blah blah blah. And [14:43] Don Draper says, "You know what? I [14:45] hardly ever think of you. I don't It's [14:47] really not. Yeah, it's a weird world and [14:49] probably people should behave a certain [14:51] way, but we all love Cole Porter, so [14:53] whatever, you know." Uh, okay. Speaking [14:55] of possibly homosexual jihadis, I I will [14:59] get to Abdul Alai. First, I want to tell [15:01] you about Cardiff. There's a lot more to [15:02] say. First though, go to [15:03] cardiff.co/nolles. [15:07] There is a productivity rule that says [15:09] if something takes less than 5 minutes, [15:10] just do it immediately. Do not put it on [15:12] a list. Do not schedule a meeting about [15:13] it. 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[16:47] >> To call in a question. My loyalty to the [16:49] Constitution. I'm talking. I'm talking. [16:51] >> I'm talking. [16:52] >> Well, own up to it. [16:53] >> Excuse me. Yep. Go ahead. [16:55] >> Can I have a few more seconds? [16:56] >> Yes. Go. Go ahead. [16:57] >> Thank you. [16:58] >> To bring into question, my commitment to [17:00] the Constitution is really beneath you. [17:03] >> Really beneath you. To bring up my [17:05] biography. He says, "Well, because my [17:06] mom's a nurse in Missouri." No, it's [17:08] because your mom was a member of the [17:10] Muslim Brotherhood. Nobody disputes [17:11] that. His mom, Fatten Elcomy, who's a [17:13] member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Abdul [17:15] alsi, [17:18] who's a Chicago professor, says, quote, [17:19] "My family has long been MB Muslim [17:22] Brotherhood." His father-in-law, Jukaku [17:24] Ta, is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood [17:26] through the Islamic Society of North [17:28] America and care. His sister-in-law, [17:30] Miam Jukaku, is on a terrorism watch [17:32] list. She has the four S's on her [17:34] boarding pass, secondary screening. a [17:36] former foreign affairs spokesman for the [17:37] Muslim Brotherhood for a party [17:39] associated with MB donated to Abdul's [17:41] campaign and Abdul himself was the VP of [17:44] the Muslim Students Association in [17:45] college which was founded in [17:47] collaboration with the Muslim [17:48] Brotherhood. So, you know, look, there's [17:50] a reason he might be squirming a little [17:51] bit. It's not cuz his mom's a nurse. Is [17:54] this guy going to win? [17:55] >> I you know, I'm I do not think so. I [17:58] don't believe he will. But then I am an [18:00] naturally optimistic person. The the [18:02] polls seem to me kind of meaningless. [18:04] They've been so off and we don't know [18:06] how they'll be off. These guys call [18:08] like, you know, people on their cell [18:09] phones. Do you ever answer a cell phone [18:11] call from someone you don't know? You [18:13] know, [18:13] >> I don't answer them from people I do [18:14] know. [18:14] >> You don't That's true. You don't even [18:16] answer the calls from me. But I I [18:18] thought it was just me, but I'm hoping [18:19] it's all the people you don't you know. [18:21] But but yeah, you know, I I cannot [18:23] believe that people are going to say gas [18:26] is too high, so I'm voting for a guy who [18:28] clearly wants to drive this country into [18:31] the dirt. I mean he intentionally it's [18:33] not it's not not like he wants to like [18:35] do things that we don't like. He [18:37] intentionally wants to destroy the [18:38] country. And the thing about the Muslim [18:40] Brotherhood is in a way it's irrelevant [18:42] because his actual opinions are in [18:45] league with Hamas which is in league [18:48] with Iran who believes in bringing death [18:51] to America. I mean everything these guys [18:53] say, you know, if it weren't for the [18:54] anti-semmites on the right confusing [18:56] people. I don't care what you think of [18:58] Israel. I I I don't care. But if you [19:00] think Israel's enemy is Iran, Iran's [19:03] national anthem begins death to America. [19:06] That's their that's their that's their [19:08] theme song. That's what they that's what [19:10] they want. That's what they're building [19:11] toward. So Israel's enemy is our enemy. [19:14] I mean, it's just that simple. It's not [19:16] it's not like they're our enemy because [19:18] they hate Israel. They're our enemy [19:19] because they want us dead. And I, you [19:21] know, I call me crazy, but when you want [19:24] me dead, I consider you not a nice [19:26] person. You know, I think so. These are [19:28] the people that he supports, openly [19:30] supports. These are the people that he [19:31] cries over. Uh he cries over the fate of [19:33] the people in Gaza who danced like it [19:35] was the Super Bowl when their guys went [19:37] over the line and raped and killed [19:39] children, women, men that they were [19:42] celebrating like it was, you know, Super [19:43] Bowl Sunday. He supports them. What else [19:45] do we need to know about him? What else [19:47] do we need to know about him? He keeps [19:48] bringing up the Constitution as if he'd [19:50] read it once, but I don't, you know, I I [19:52] don't see what he believes in that makes [19:55] him not our enemy. He is our enemy. Why [19:57] would we put our enemy into the Senate? [20:00] So, look, that's logic. As you say, [20:03] maybe the American uh voter is is tired [20:06] of logic and tired of self uh you know, [20:08] sustaining government, but I I have to [20:11] believe they're going to turn against [20:12] him. [20:12] >> But part part the question is who is the [20:14] American voter or at least who's the [20:16] Michigan voter? Abdul al- Saiad is [20:17] relying on 80% support in Dearborn [20:20] because Dearbornne is now entirely [20:21] Muslim. And his bigger base of support, [20:24] it's not the Muslims, it's collegeed [20:26] educated liberal white women in the rest [20:28] of Michigan. And the thing that links [20:30] both of those groups is they both kind [20:33] of want to destroy America. So, you [20:35] know, even even though President Trump [20:37] was able to win a pretty strong [20:38] percentage of the Muslim vote, including [20:40] in Michigan, the rest of the GOP doesn't [20:43] really have that draw. Trump is just [20:45] suie generous. He's he just speaks in a [20:48] way to the American voter and and the [20:50] non-American voter that uh is extremely [20:53] impressive. And so there are voters I [20:55] strongly suspect who voted for Trump who [20:58] will vote for Abdul Elsai. And so we [21:00] have our sponsor Freespoke here has the [21:03] election hub. I agree that the the uh [21:06] polls are a little wonky, but if you go [21:08] into the election hub here, right right [21:10] here on our sponsor Freespoke, uh you [21:11] scroll down, the generic ballot is [21:14] absolutely brutal for the Republicans. I [21:16] mean, it's Dems uh plus 7 and a half [21:19] according to active vote. Yuggov Dems [21:21] plus 9, Sienna Dems plus 11, on and on [21:24] and on. You you get down into the [21:27] polling average 50.4% for the Democrats, [21:30] 49 42.5 for the Republicans. In those [21:33] individual races, the Democrats [21:35] basically have an advantage within the [21:38] margin of error usually, but but a [21:40] notable advantage. So, uh, the truth [21:42] gets buried. Free spoke helps you find [21:43] it. You decide. They also have this [21:45] great election hub. So, you got to [21:46] download FreeSpoke right now. It's free [21:48] premium benefit. It is the best money [21:50] that you're going to spend. Certainly [21:52] way better than buying Drew's book. Uh, [21:54] download free spoke. It's free. Go to [21:55] getfreepoke.com/dailywire. [21:57] When you download the app, use code [21:59] NLES30 for 30% off an annual premium [22:02] subscription. I just fear [22:04] >> Did you not hear the president of the [22:06] United States say, "Get this book now?" [22:08] Did you miss that? [22:09] >> I look, I listened to the president. You [22:11] know, the other thing the president just [22:12] said, and I called this a month or two [22:14] months ago, he just came out and he was [22:16] he was warning voters. He said, "Hey, [22:18] heads up. Iran is doing everything it [22:20] can to drive up oil prices in the leadup [22:22] to the midterms." And there were a lot [22:24] of Republicans back in August who said, [22:26] "Yeah, the polls are bad for us now, but [22:28] it's a natural low point for Republicans [22:30] in these midterm polls. Don't worry, [22:31] they're going to get better uh as we get [22:34] closer to the election." I said, "Yeah, [22:35] maybe that's the historical trend, but [22:37] the problem is everything's going to get [22:39] worse because Iran has a calendar, too, [22:41] and Iran knows when the midterms are. [22:44] So, the gas prices are certainly going [22:46] to go up. They're going to go up because [22:47] of things that happened two months ago, [22:48] but they're going to go up because of [22:49] things that Iran is doing right now. And [22:51] that's just built into it. By the way, [22:53] we still have almost two weeks left. [22:54] It's going to get worse from here on [22:56] out. Uh the the Iran war is deeply [22:58] deeply unpopular. I mean, it's at 32 33% [23:02] approval with very high affirmative [23:04] disapproval. You know, 55 plus%. [23:08] One, [23:10] what's going to happen? You know, as you [23:12] say, you're a little more optimistic. [23:13] And two, if the Republicans get blown [23:16] out of the water, [23:17] where is the blame going to lie? Is it [23:19] going to be the Iran war? Is it going to [23:22] be because Trump is looking ahead at the [23:23] end of the second term? Is it going to [23:25] be because of the insanity among the [23:28] live streamers and the podcasters? And [23:30] is it going to be because natural [23:32] fisions in the GOP that existed [23:33] pre-Trump are reemerging? Where where's [23:35] the fault lie? [23:36] >> Well, I think we we have to step back to [23:39] answer that question. You have to step [23:40] back a minute. You have to look at what [23:41] President Trump is thinking. President [23:44] Trump hates war. He's a businessman. And [23:45] you know, just just like, you know, the [23:47] mafia hates war, right? Because people [23:49] who do business want peace. so people [23:51] can do business and that's what Trump is [23:52] like and he doesn't like people being [23:54] killed. He doesn't like watching [23:55] innocent people being killed on the late [23:57] night news. You know, these are the [23:58] things that actually motivate him. So [24:00] his argument is these guys whose theme [24:04] song is death to America were building a [24:06] nuclear weapon and they were getting [24:07] close and yes that's the first a threat [24:09] to Israel but only because Israel is [24:11] standing in our way. That's the only [24:13] reason you know they want to go after [24:14] Israel first. They want us dead. So he [24:17] thought I've got to go in there. He knew [24:18] when the midterms were uh were just as [24:21] well as anybody else. What he's trying [24:23] to do is he's trying to reestablish the [24:25] the world in in all of his foreign [24:27] policy. His motivation is to reestablish [24:30] America in such a way that we can endure [24:32] the next 50 to 75 years of cold war with [24:35] China. And that's part of that is going [24:37] to be being in control of where their [24:39] energy comes from. Much of which is [24:41] coming through the passages uh through [24:43] Iran. So he he's got a global vision. [24:46] This is the thing about Donald Trump. [24:47] He's not the most articulate man in the [24:49] world. He's wonderful in the sense that [24:50] he will say anything that's on his mind, [24:52] but he doesn't always explain to people [24:54] what he's doing. So, he has a global [24:56] vision that looks forward into the next [24:58] century, into this the rest of this [24:59] century, which is going to be dominated [25:01] by this cold war. [25:04] That means gas prices are going to go up [25:05] for a little bit. And he knew that. He [25:07] knew it to begin with. He's always he's [25:09] a talk about an optimist. He's always a [25:11] little more optimistic than I am. He [25:13] thinks things are going to be over in a [25:14] week. They're going to be over in a [25:15] couple of weeks. and and the Iranians [25:17] are nuts, right? They're not interested [25:19] in a deal. They're not interested in [25:21] negotiating. They're interested in [25:22] killing us, right? So, essentially his [25:24] pitch to the American people is, [25:26] "Listen, guys, I get it. I'm I'm making [25:28] you sacrifice something for a vision [25:30] that you're going to love over as your [25:33] children grow up in a world where we [25:35] have some leeway uh for dealing with [25:37] China." He's never said that to the [25:39] people. He's never said, "This is a [25:41] sacrifice I'm asking you to make, and [25:43] I'm I'm risking the midterms. I [25:45] understand that, but I'm asking, I'm [25:47] making a sacrifice, but I want you to [25:48] make a sacrifice. He doesn't say that [25:50] because he feels that his entire role is [25:53] to be the cheerleader for America. He [25:55] said as much. He said, use that word [25:57] exactly. [25:58] >> And I think the fault may lie there. I [26:00] think the fault may lie in the fact that [26:02] he doesn't like to talk about sacrifice. [26:04] He doesn't like to talk about what you [26:06] know, you know, remember the famous John [26:07] F. Kennedy line, ask not what your [26:09] country can do for you, ask what you can [26:11] do for your country. When was the last [26:12] time that was in play in America? Right. [26:14] Yeah. I mean, basically politicians say, [26:16] "Ask not what you can do for America, [26:18] ask what America can do for you." And [26:20] >> would the line play anymore? Would the [26:22] line in 2026 play? [26:23] >> You know, I think it might I think it [26:26] might. And I think that the people might [26:27] have responded to that and might still [26:29] respond to that that he understands [26:31] because it is it does make people [26:33] suffer. You know, I mean, we in the [26:35] media don't really understand, you know, [26:37] we we get chauffeered around places, we [26:40] get paid very well, but people who are [26:42] working for a living use their cars and [26:44] that money comes right out of their [26:46] pockets and right out of their profit [26:47] margin. So, it really is a sacrifice [26:49] that he is asking for a vision that he [26:51] has of the future. Now, American [26:54] politics is based on the last 10 [26:56] minutes, and the press works overtime to [26:59] make sure we're paying attention to did [27:01] a dead man sleep with gay prostitutes. I [27:04] mean, that's that's a typical, you know, [27:05] in in Chenki's defense, that's a typical [27:08] pre uh uh press move in America, you [27:11] know, to ask like, oh, whether, you [27:13] know, they should VC Ramaswami should [27:15] have put an ad on TV. What are the [27:17] issues in Ohio? What are the issues in [27:19] Michigan and in Texas? That's what I [27:21] want to know. that's how I want to judge [27:22] my candidates. Donald Trump is actually [27:24] acting on the issues, but they're [27:26] killing him in the press for every [27:29] moment of time. And that's why you saw [27:31] him the other day turning around to the [27:32] CNN reporter and saying, "You're a low [27:34] IQ individual. You work for CNN and I [27:36] think to ABC News calling somebody [27:38] stupid. He's losing his temper with [27:40] people who will not let him sell a [27:43] vision that goes past the next 10 [27:45] minutes." So, I I think look, it's it's [27:48] a bad setup for Republicans in answer to [27:50] your question. And it's a bad setup for [27:52] Republicans on paper to begin with, [27:54] right? It's it's a midterm when the [27:56] Republicans have all three branches of [27:59] government. So, the people are going to [28:01] be dissatisfied. It is also true that uh [28:04] President Trump ran on the economy [28:05] stupid. He was going to reverse he's not [28:08] going to reverse inflation, but he was [28:10] going to increase wages. He's done that. [28:12] He's bringing back business and [28:14] manufacturing into the country. All of [28:16] his brags are actually true. He has [28:18] actually brought in [28:19] >> $1 trillion worth of investment, a lot [28:21] of a lot of good wins. [28:22] >> But he is he is up against a media that [28:25] has lost its power because of him. And [28:28] yes, it's because of you and me, too. [28:29] But we're we're kind of the foot [28:30] soldiers. He's the general in this war. [28:32] He beat them, you know, to win back the [28:35] presidency. And he's fighting them and [28:37] they're fighting back. They're fighting [28:38] back for their power and they're [28:39] fighting back to slander. When I was but [28:41] a lad, George uh first George Bush ran [28:45] against Bill Clinton after a [28:48] tremendously successful Reagan [28:49] presidency that gave us 25 years 25 [28:53] years of a boom economy from the Reagan [28:56] revolution. [28:57] In that in the Bush administration, [28:59] there was a little blip where that [29:02] 25-year boom went down a little bit, [29:04] maybe like 5%, but the report the press [29:08] covered it like it was the Great [29:09] Depression. And that's what gave Bill [29:11] Clinton the presidency and that's what [29:13] ended the Reagan revolution. They threw [29:14] Bush out and they brought in Bill [29:16] Clinton who actually kept the Reagan [29:17] revolution going in many ways because he [29:19] had no principle. So he just followed [29:21] what the people wanted. But but still [29:23] they basically took Bush out by [29:26] overplaying the economy. I read the Wall [29:28] Street Journal every morning and I read [29:30] the New York Times every morning and a a [29:32] word of good news and people don't [29:34] understand that the Wall Street Journal [29:36] has a conservative op-ed page but its [29:38] news pages is leftwing. [29:39] >> Yeah. [29:40] >> A a a good word about the economy would [29:42] die of loneliness in these papers. And [29:44] yet the economy is actually pretty good. [29:47] You know, I mean employment very steady. [29:50] Uh inflation is way down from where it [29:52] was in Biden administration. the core [29:55] inflation is way down if you take out [29:57] the gas prices, you know, which are a [29:59] result of this war. So, I I have to [30:02] believe that that Trump's inability to [30:05] override the narrative of the media is [30:08] is a a a factor in what's happening. We [30:11] probably would have lost the House [30:12] anyway. The Republicans probably would [30:14] have lost the House anyway. But if this [30:15] does turn into a blue wave, I think that [30:17] the communication of what Trump is [30:19] doing, what he's accomplished, I saw [30:21] people online yesterday saying Trump has [30:23] accomplished nothing. [30:25] How many people are coming over the [30:26] border? Yeah. You know, it's so insane. [30:29] That is like winning a war. [30:30] >> I know. This is one of the big problems [30:33] with the Trump administration, first [30:35] Trump administration and the second [30:36] Trump administration. So many good [30:39] things happened so quickly. [30:41] >> Yes. that we I mean just just shutting [30:43] down the border, 3 million illegals [30:44] stopped coming into the country on top [30:46] of another almost three million [30:47] deportations, two and a half of which [30:49] were legal aliens, uh half a million of [30:51] which were illegal aliens who just got [30:53] out anyway, which is fine by me. Uh so [30:55] just that alone absolutely shocking on [30:58] top of stopping all the really radical [31:00] uh DEI woke policies, you know, down to [31:04] castrating little kids. I mean, stuff [31:06] that that was so abhorentt for so many [31:08] years, it disappeared overnight or [31:10] largely disappeared overnight, but then, [31:12] you know, there is this question of [31:13] like, okay, well, that's all gone. Now, [31:14] I've I've readjusted to my new reality, [31:17] and I don't like this Iran war. Okay, [31:19] maybe I'm going to sit home or I'm going [31:20] to vote for some uh effeminite terrorist [31:23] in in Michigan, and which is uh deeply [31:26] distressing. Uh, I have to leave it [31:29] there because not because I'm short on [31:31] time, not because we've gone way over [31:33] the allotted segment, but because I'm [31:35] starting to feel a little envy again [31:37] that you got the more recent book [31:39] endorsement from the president [31:40] >> and my book had words. No, [31:42] >> no, I don't feel envy about that. [31:43] Writing books with words is absolutely [31:45] I'm I'm doing it right now. It's [31:46] absolutely brutal and painful and awful. [31:48] Uh, but but it is true. He look you if [31:52] you want a book without words you can go [31:54] get the the book that President Trump [31:55] endorsed in 2017 Reasons to Vote for [31:57] Democrats. If you want one with words, [32:00] Drew, where can they get it? [32:01] >> You can get it anywhere. Get it on [32:03] Amazon. You can get it at the Daily Wire [32:04] shop. I'm signing books. I'll be signing [32:06] books on an all access. So you can get [32:08] signed books from the Daily Wire shop. [32:10] But uh get you can get them in [32:11] bookstores. I was just at a Barnes & [32:12] Noble in uh in Nashville yesterday. A [32:15] big crowd showed up. It was just [32:17] terrific. Uh and I'll be going next [32:19] week. I'm going to uh Phoenix, outside [32:22] of Phoenix, Scottsdale, to one of the [32:25] great mystery bookstores in the country, [32:27] Poison Pen, and then I'm going to [32:28] Introbang in Dallas uh toward the end. [32:30] So, you can get it in bookstores or on [32:32] Amazon. And the wonderful thing about [32:34] Amazon, not to take away from our own [32:36] shop because that's also wonderful, but [32:38] the thing about Amazon is those books [32:39] count toward the bestseller list. And at [32:42] least one of the Cameron Winter [32:44] mysteries sold well enough to make the [32:46] Times bestseller list. And I'm [32:48] absolutely certain they kept it off [32:49] because I kept keep insulting them as [32:51] they deserve. So I'd love to just stuff [32:53] this down their throats. [32:54] >> Yeah. Yeah, that would be [32:55] >> not that I'm vindictive, but that it [32:57] would be nice to [32:58] >> No. Yeah. No, I know. And look, these [32:59] things don't matter. I mean, even though [33:01] Speechless outs sold the number one New [33:02] York Times bestseller that week by 40%. [33:04] And it didn't make it anywhere on the [33:05] list. No, I don't even remember these [33:07] things, you know? It's like they don't [33:08] matter, but you can always go do it. Try [33:10] to try to help make the list. Interbang, [33:12] by the way, also the alternative name [33:14] for the Lindsey Graham doc that Chen [33:16] Yuger dropped. So, don't watch that. Do [33:18] get the book. Find me nowhere. Drew, [33:20] excellent to see you. [33:21] >> It's great to see you, pal. [33:22] >> Good to see you. Okay, now I want to get [33:24] to Ilhan Omar, which is not her real [33:26] name, and then we'll get to the mailbag. [33:27] First, I want to tell you about Pure [33:28] Talk. There's a lot more to say. First, [33:30] though, go to puretalk.com/nolles [33:33] can wle. Everyone has that one friend [33:36] who somehow knows about every great deal [33:38] before anybody else. And that friend is [33:40] me. I do. I'm a real cheapkate. And I'm [33:42] very, not cheap. I'm frugal. 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Offer ends [35:04] November 15th, 2026. Okay. Uh, very [35:07] quickly before we get into the mailbag, [35:08] Ilhan Omar is not her real name. This is [35:12] a new report has come out. Her real name [35:15] is apparently Ilhan Nur say Elme. This [35:18] is according to Fox News digital getting [35:20] getting reports out of the federal [35:22] government. President Trump President [35:23] Trump himself just mentioned this at a [35:25] rally last night. [35:28] It was just revealed just a little while [35:30] ago that Elon Omar, [35:32] not a person I've ever been particularly [35:35] fond of, [35:37] that her name is not Elon Omar. the one [35:41] that she used to get elected and sworn [35:43] into Congress. In other words, she used [35:44] the name Elan Omar, but rather it's an [35:48] entirely different name. Iran Nur say [35:52] almi slightly different than Elan [35:56] that's [35:58] and [36:00] I don't know if you heard this also. [36:02] Have you people heard this? Have you [36:05] heard this Ashley? And the last name is [36:07] incredibly also the exact last name of [36:10] her brother Ahmed Nur say al-mi the [36:14] person that they say she married and had [36:18] children with [36:21] you allowed to do that Jeff are you [36:23] allowed to do that I don't think so [36:26] Joanie I don't know you would you're an [36:27] expert you allowed to do that Joanie [36:31] when asked whether or not she married [36:33] her brother today they asked answer. Did [36:36] you marry your brother? She said, "Not [36:40] to my knowledge." [36:44] That's one of the worst answers I think [36:46] I've ever heard. [36:49] Okay. So, according to a former [36:52] Minnesota federal immigration judge [36:54] speaking to Fox, if proven in court that [36:57] Omar lived her entire life under an [37:01] alias, uh that that could be grounds uh [37:06] for what we're all hoping for, which is [37:08] not just dismissal from Congress, but [37:09] that she could be deported from the [37:11] country. That is a much better October [37:13] surprise than uh saying without any [37:16] evidence whatsoever that uh Lindsey [37:18] Graham was a homosexual, which most [37:20] people assumed, even though I I kind of [37:22] don't really assume it anymore. Mostly [37:24] because the Democrats say it's true. So [37:25] now I got to wonder. I I suspect it's [37:27] not true. Okay, I know we're running [37:28] late, but it is finally finally my [37:32] favorite time of the week when I get to [37:35] hear from you in the mailbag. Before we [37:38] get to that, I want to tell you about [37:39] GOP votes. There's a lot more to say. 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Our mailbag is sponsored by Pure [39:03] Talk at pure talk.com/nolsk [39:05] for pure talk's best unlimited plan for [39:07] just $29.95 a month for life. Take it [39:10] away. Mr. Nolles, you often riff on the [39:13] Protestant Reformation, but do you [39:14] believe the Catholic Church was not in [39:16] need of reforming in the 16th century? [39:18] The church was rife with simony and [39:20] corruption. Priests in Rome unabashedly [39:23] had sex with prostitutes and said it was [39:24] good because at least it was with women. [39:27] Much of the priesthood priesthood was [39:29] just as biblically illiterate as the [39:32] ley. But at least the ley had the excuse [39:34] of being illiterate. And the indulgence [39:37] collectors were teaching that you could [39:39] buy your way out of purgatory without [39:42] the reformation. You would not have the [39:44] Catholic Church you love today. [39:46] Yeah, it's a really good question with a [39:49] lot of pmic and propaganda in there [39:51] because uh a lot of what people think [39:53] they know about the Catholic Church of [39:55] the early 16th century has been severely [39:59] exaggerated. Uh and you can prove this. [40:01] I mean some of the problems that you saw [40:03] in the with with bad clerics or whatever [40:06] were already addressed by the pope. you [40:09] know, uh, some of the abuses, uh, that [40:11] went on, uh, in terms of things like, [40:14] you know, a priest slept with this lady [40:15] or whatever. Uh, some, yes, sometimes [40:17] that happened. There were bishops who [40:18] had kids. Like, I'm not I don't really [40:20] mean to downplay that. Uh, people do bad [40:23] things in all are eras and all in all [40:24] places. You know, you think about this [40:26] with the sex scandal that rocked the [40:27] church 25 years ago, uh, which which [40:30] made a lot of people think that that was [40:32] unique to the Catholic church when in [40:33] fact rates of, uh, sexual abuse, that [40:36] kind of sexual abuse even, uh, were [40:38] about the same in the Catholic Church as [40:40] any other religious community and they [40:41] were half the rate of that you see in [40:42] public schools. So there there is a [40:44] little pymical propaganda element to it. [40:46] But I think you make a good point and [40:49] this is why we're grateful for uh God's [40:51] providence and guiding hand over history [40:54] and deep involvement in history is it's [40:56] true uh one of the great things that [40:58] came out of the Protestant Reformation [41:00] or the Protestant Revolution was the [41:02] counterreformation where you had a lot [41:04] of these reforming figures who remained [41:06] within the church but who were [41:08] scandalized by abuses within the church. [41:10] they worked to uh reform it. And so a a [41:14] lot of what we love about the Catholic [41:16] Church really does come out of that that [41:19] reformation, the counterreformation that [41:21] occurred within the church. This is one [41:22] of the reasons why I I usually prefer to [41:24] refer to the the events of the early [41:27] 16th century as the Protestant [41:29] Revolution. I'm I'm not I don't mean [41:30] that in any pical way against [41:31] Protestants. I just po want to point out [41:34] following Jacqu Barzen who's a great [41:35] historian wrote the book Dawn to [41:37] decadence uh that the thing that [41:40] happened with Martin Luther and John [41:41] Calvin and all these guys was not a [41:43] reformation because they split off from [41:45] the church. So uh it was it was a [41:48] revolution. It was a separation. It [41:49] created a new thing. It but uh a [41:52] reformation would have to be from within [41:53] the institution. And you're right [41:55] without the uh the activities of Martin [41:59] Luther and and some of the other guys, [42:01] you would not have had as much momentum [42:04] for some of the reforming activities of [42:06] people who remained Catholic who were [42:08] just as scandalized by by abuses within [42:10] the church as uh as Martin Luther was. [42:12] So it's a very good point and it's a [42:14] it's a good way to look on the bright [42:15] side of history. you know, even if [42:16] you're a Catholic. Okay, next question. [42:19] >> Hi, Michael. Recently on the show, I [42:21] feel like there's been a lot of talk of [42:23] the dichotomy between conservatism and [42:25] liberalism. And although I tend to agree [42:28] with you on almost everything, I have to [42:30] push back on you a little bit so we can [42:32] flush this idea out a little bit more [42:33] clearly. You've set this dichotomy up to [42:35] basically be good versus evil. And in [42:38] our current cultural climate, that does [42:40] seem to be the case. However, we use [42:42] words like liberalism as synonymous with [42:45] progressivism. And I want to be careful [42:47] there because I think that there is a [42:49] place for progressively minded [42:52] individuals in in a conservative [42:55] disposition, if that makes sense. If I [42:57] may draw an analogy to men and women and [43:00] how women can tend to be more emotional, [43:01] a little bit more irrational, more going [43:03] with our feelings. And on the other [43:05] side, men could heir to be too strict, [43:07] too rigid, too heartless. The virtue is [43:11] somewhere in the middle and that's why a [43:12] mother and a father are so important to [43:15] have in a family because they work [43:17] together to give the children everything [43:19] that they need to thrive. We need the [43:22] artistry and the creativity that [43:24] progressive mindsets give in order to [43:27] cultivate beauty in society. And on the [43:30] other side, we need structure and a [43:32] passion for conserving tradition. And [43:34] when both are properly ordered, it could [43:36] make a society really flourish. So I [43:39] think our problem nowadays is that we're [43:41] not properly ordered as a society [43:43] because we've lost sight of what is most [43:45] important and that's what's given rise [43:47] to this liberalism wokeism situation [43:49] we've got going on now. Anyways, I just [43:52] love to hear your thoughts on the role [43:53] of progressive and creative thought in [43:55] the political landscape. I just think [43:58] you've been a little bit too harsh on [44:00] those who tend to be more creative, [44:01] progressive, inventive minded, [44:03] especially since we need those kinds of [44:05] people in order for society to flourish. [44:07] Thanks, Michael. [44:08] >> Very thoughtful. Good question, which [44:12] boils down to don't we need the libs for [44:14] a little balance in society so we can [44:16] have some arts and some uh leniency and [44:19] a little, you know, freedom to get a [44:21] little messy? Uh, sure. I I think though [44:24] there is a little bit of a category [44:25] error there. I think there is an error [44:28] of observation where you say that men [44:29] can sometimes be a little heartless. I [44:31] will just point out all the love songs [44:33] and love poems ever written practically [44:34] were written by men. There not a lot of [44:36] great love songs written by women. So, [44:38] but but I think you're right in [44:39] appearance. Men try to give off the [44:42] strong silent type of appearance and men [44:46] certainly can be much more strict than [44:48] women. Women are tend to be a little [44:49] more lenient. Men tend to be a little [44:52] more focused uh monoomaniacal whereas [44:55] women are better at multitasking. Women [44:57] tend to be more nurturing. All of that [44:58] is true. It's also um incisive that you [45:02] point out that liberalism is more [45:06] associated with women and conservatism [45:08] is more associated with men. That just [45:10] is true as a matter of electoral [45:12] politics. And it's good when women act [45:15] like women, but it's bad when men act [45:16] like women. That's the difference [45:17] between womanly and womanish. Uh, [45:19] however, the getting back to the [45:21] category error, the the you're right [45:24] that in all societies for all times, [45:26] there's going to be a more conservative [45:29] kind of party and a more uh progressive [45:32] kind of party, a party that's a little [45:34] more open to change. And that gets back [45:36] to dispositions rather than ideology. [45:39] That's true. That's true going back to [45:41] Kimon and Pericles in ancient Athens. U, [45:44] but that's not really what I mean when [45:46] I'm talking about liberalism. I'm not [45:48] just talking about the disposition to [45:51] prefer change. I'm I am talking about an [45:53] ideology that emerges in the [45:55] enlightenment which then uh reaches its [45:58] fuller form in modern days through [46:00] progressive liberalism. But there are [46:02] other offshoots. Uh libertarianism, what [46:04] we now would call classical liberalism, [46:06] which actually doesn't bear much of a [46:08] resemblance to the original kind of [46:10] liberalism, the original kind of [46:11] liberalism, which is also bad. Then [46:13] there are the daughters of liberalism [46:14] like uh socialism, communism, to some [46:18] degree you would say fascism, uh all [46:21] those modern ideologies. Uh the the [46:23] problem with liberalism as an ideology [46:26] is that it misunderstands human nature [46:29] and our place in the world. Liberalism [46:31] as an ideology, not just as a [46:33] disposition, says that man is [46:34] fundamentally an individual rather than [46:37] a member of society. It says that man [46:39] fundamentally is born with rights rather [46:42] than obligations. It says that the [46:44] purpose of politics is to maximize [46:46] individual autonomy rather than to [46:48] preserve the common good. Uh those are [46:51] just fundamental differences. Uh and so [46:54] liberalism as an ideology just is wrong. [46:58] It just gets things wrong and you can [47:00] can see it go terrifically wrong uh in [47:03] things like human slaughter and abortion [47:05] or the transgender ideology or or what [47:07] have you. I agree that a society does [47:10] need a balance of dispositions. It takes [47:12] all types. We want uh that kind of [47:14] diversity. For me, I I used to sing a [47:17] drinking song in college called the [47:19] Edmond Burke song where we say all [47:20] change is bad. Progress is for perverse. [47:24] Call the wench [47:26] something. Damn the French. Sing another [47:28] verse. You know, I Yes. I I like old [47:30] things. I like my old jacket and my old [47:33] car and my not my old wife. She's a [47:35] young, beautiful wife, but we've been [47:37] together for a very, very long time. I [47:39] like that stuff. I like I like things [47:41] that have been around for a long time [47:42] because they are mine. Old buildings, [47:44] old architecture, all this. And some [47:46] people like new stuff, and those are [47:48] dispositions. Uh, but [47:51] when my my invective against liberalism, [47:53] which comes out every day, is is really [47:55] geared mostly toward the ideology, which [47:59] was wrong and ruined everything. Okay. [48:01] Uh, so so much more I want to get to. [48:05] That's fake headline Friday. Sorry, I [48:07] blame Drew. Blame Drew for bragging [48:09] about how he got the presidential [48:10] endorsement on his book. The rest of the [48:11] show continues now. You don't want to [48:12] miss it. Become a member. Use code canw [48:14] at checkout for two months free on all [48:15] annual plans. [49:01] Professor, [49:08] >> LET ME OUT. [49:10] >> YOU WILL REMEMBER YOUR DUTY. [49:11] >> This isn't heroism. [49:13] >> YOU USELESS SUCK. You sit there and [49:15] shake because you're dependent on drink. [49:17] Your sick is all over you. [49:21] >> Have you ever seen a child starve to [49:24] death, Professor? [49:26] >> No. I am.
